You are not getting into any sorority with bad or mediocre grades.

[DubaiSis]

... but my super special snowflake got a hangnail in her freshman year and her GPA is now 2.8. That's almost good enough, right? I heard that the football team's recommendation for her will override the grade requirement. She's very popular with the football team...

[BlueCarnation]

Totally agree, but...what do we tell PNMs who are accepted to certain schools with mediocre GPAs but want to go through recruitment there? At my alma mater, for example, grades are not an issue because you have to have great grades to get in. But I get rec requests for a few schools with very competitive recruitments and the PNMs got accepted to these schools with less than stellar GPAs--one gal had a 2.95 and no good "excuse" for it. Sure, you got in, but you're going to be very limited because your GPA is not good. Some of these PNMs are getting SCHOLARSHIPS to these schools with these less than stellar GPAs, but they're already going to be ruled out by certain chapters because of the same GPAs. It's very hard to reconcile that.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by BlueCarnation

Totally agree, but...what do we tell PNMs who are accepted to certain schools with mediocre GPAs but want to go through recruitment there? At my alma mater, for example, grades are not an issue because you have to have great grades to get in. But I get rec requests for a few schools with very competitive recruitments and the PNMs got accepted to these schools with less than stellar GPAs--one gal had a 2.95 and no good "excuse" for it. Sure, you got in, but you're going to be very limited because your GPA is not good. Some of these PNMs are getting SCHOLARSHIPS to these schools with these less than stellar GPAs, but they're already going to be ruled out by certain chapters because of the same GPAs. It's very hard to reconcile that.

This is when you remind them that sororities have a much stronger academic focus than comes across in popular culture and are not just about living in a pretty house and partying. It would be nice if that was conveyed in more of the recruitment videos that are all over YouTube.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by 33girl

This is when you remind them that sororities have a much stronger academic focus than comes across in popular culture and are not just about living in a pretty house and partying. It would be nice if that was conveyed in more of the recruitment videos that are all over YouTube.

Oh my goodness, yes.

Recruitment videos on YouTube make me laugh. The ones where fraternities mock sorority recruitment videos make me laugh harder.

A Taylor Swift song plays over a video of women blowing glitter around and frolicking on the beach, and then we wonder why PNMs think they can skirt by with a less-than-steller GPA.

[NYCMS]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Oh my goodness, yes.

Recruitment videos on YouTube make me laugh. The ones where fraternities mock sorority recruitment videos make me laugh harder.

A Taylor Swift song plays over a video of women blowing glitter around and frolicking on the beach, and then we wonder why PNMs think they can skirt by with a less-than-steller GPA.

Could.not agree more. If you only saw these videos, you'd think sorority women did nothing but play and party, looking fabulous all the while.

Did you see the mock video done by the Vanderbilt football team? One of the best I've seen!

[BlueCarnation]

Originally Posted by 33girl

This is when you remind them that sororities have a much stronger academic focus than comes across in popular culture and are not just about living in a pretty house and partying. It would be nice if that was conveyed in more of the recruitment videos that are all over YouTube.

I try...but as we all know, some 18 year olds are a little more drawn to cute boys than books.

I just need to get over the fact that a 3.0 at a mediocre high school will get you a scholarship to a flagship university. But there's probably some website somewhere else to discuss that...

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by BlueCarnation

I try...but as we all know, some 18 year olds are a little more drawn to cute boys than books.

I just need to get over the fact that a 3.0 at a mediocre high school will get you a scholarship to a flagship university. But there's probably some website somewhere else to discuss that...

There's this...

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=134651

Everybody is the best!

[DTD Alum]

Those recruitment videos may look ridiculous for graduates of almost every age and gender, but we're not who they're targeting. For 17 and 18 year old women, videos that show fun, put together and well dressed girls doing cool things (yachts! music festivals! pools! running on the football field!) is wayyyyyy more of a draw than studying in the library or conducting chapter meetings. Keep in mind they're coming from high school, and only the absolute richest girls have had access to these types of events with their friends before (and they're going to want to keep at least the status quo anyway). They're wildly exciting to that age group and that's why chapters are spending so much money on them. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DTD Alum

Those recruitment videos may look ridiculous for graduates of almost every age and gender, but we're not who they're targeting. For 17 and 18 year old women, videos that show fun, put together and well dressed girls doing cool things (yachts! music festivals! pools! running on the football field!) is wayyyyyy more of a draw than studying in the library or conducting chapter meetings. Keep in mind they're coming from high school, and only the absolute richest girls have had access to these types of events with their friends before (and they're going to want to keep at least the status quo anyway). They're wildly exciting to that age group and that's why chapters are spending so much money on them. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Perhaps that's the case. But then we can't be surprised when PNMs believe that their GPA isn't going to be a huge factor going into recruitment.

And I don't think you give 17- and 18-year-old women enough credit. To think that all of them are simply drawn in by pretty houses and glitter is not accurate.

I'm not saying you have to show a video of women in the library studying, but why, instead of running around aimlessly with a meaningless song playing, do we not talk about the benefits of membership? The importance of scholarship? The friendships? The lifelong connections? The opportunity to give back to the community? Heck, you can even talk about and show your amazing house and the social events you hold, all while hanging out by the pool. But a good number of recruitment videos are expensive, trivial recordings that portray nothing of substance.