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Old 08-25-2017, 02:42 PM
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I'm a native New Yorker and still reside in NYC. My family first arrived in the US from Italy 30 years after the Civil War ended so I have no ancestors who fought in that war. The removal of the statues is an effort by the left to destroy certain aspects of southern culture. Not only northern liberals either and that's the shame of it. I grew up with a lot of these big city liberals and they hate the south and southerners for who knows what reason. I never had a problem with statues of Confederate generals, or the confederate flag etc.

As others have noted in this thread Grant gave Lee and the south benevolent surrender terms in a effort to heal the nation.
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Old 08-25-2017, 03:31 PM
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I'm a native New Yorker and still reside in NYC. My family first arrived in the US from Italy 30 years after the Civil War ended so I have no ancestors who fought in that war. The removal of the statues is an effort by the left to destroy certain aspects of southern culture. Not only northern liberals either and that's the shame of it. I grew up with a lot of these big city liberals and they hate the south and southerners for who knows what reason. I never had a problem with statues of Confederate generals, or the confederate flag etc.

As others have noted in this thread Grant gave Lee and the south benevolent surrender terms in a effort to heal the nation.
I think you fail to grasp some really fundamental issues to understanding what is going on here.

The bit about you not believing you have an ancestor who fought in the war is a tad bizarre. Unless you come from a cloistered community, I'm sure that if your ancestors came in the 1890s as some of mine did from Ireland, you will find others who have been here much longer. A subscription to ancestry.com is recommended. It's pretty interesting stuff, but I digress.

This whole notion of big city northern liberals trying to control the South is just bizarre. This is a story about schools and LOCAL governments deciding to take down monuments honoring the Confederacy. This isn't about changing history as that would be impossible. How history is viewed may be changing and if you step back from your feelings and preconceived notions, maybe the understanding of history insofar as the "Lost Cause" needs to change.

While you may not have a problem with the flag or aspects of the confederacy, many people do. And those people on a local level are now making decisions to remove some of those things which they object to. If you love Robert E. Lee, you are free to erect a shrine in is honor. Put a big 'ol statue in your front yard and fly those stars and bars if it makes you feel good.

This isn't that though. This is about having those symbols on Main Street and in front of courthouses and government buildings. These symbols are hurtful to some and for others in the white nationalist/Nazi movements, these symbols are things they venerate. Local governments and schools have found that unacceptable and are taking corrective action.
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