Resigning From Organization then Joining Another?

[Billy_Optimist]

I did this. Kind of.

Here is what happened. I was recognized as having Prodigious Mind Syndrome, at a very young age. I got to go to a fancy college, and, earned an advanced degree(a couple, actually) when I was only around 3, or, 4. So, whichever society I joined, on account of my ancestry, was just at that college.

Then, when I was around 10, or, 11, I had to go, again, to a different college, to prove that my earlier degrees were no fluke. Easy, peasy, lemon-squeezy. That was easy as. So, I joined a fraternity there, based on my ancestry, again. I did this, again, a few years later, around age 16, and, joined a different fraternity. They had the same public letters, but, it was a completely different fraternity. This is on purpose. No two are the same.

So, I had the opportunity to go, again, at a normal college age, and, wanted that experience. Well, when I got to that campus, all, except one, of the fraternities, there, were notebooked. So, instead of joining the local fraternity which had the same public letters as the other fraternity I joined, I opted to join a different one, one that was just being started.

This is fine, because, notebooked orders are imitation orders, at best. Not real fraternities, not real orders of their "parent" organization, and, typically, filled with total asshats who give Greek Life a bad name.

So, anyway, this colony gets initiated, and, they go all out. They have a mock ceremony, for everyone, and, then a private ceremony, for their "real brothers." I found this out later.

Well, I quit this "fraternity", transferred (for the first of 27 times), re-joined the second fraternity I joined (being older while pledging changes the experience, completey. I was regular brother, not the younger brother.) So, anyway, both national organizations were made aware of these incidents.

This is allowed. If you joined a gypsy fraternity, you can still join my fraternity, if you qualify. Also, if you were from a notebook order, you can join, because, notebooks fail to fully initiate their brothers.

If anyone remembers the name of the fraternity (I thought) I joined, and, from which I demitted, I hope he will keep it a secret.

I am, and, remain, a brother of the Sigma Chi Fraternity.

In Hoc Signo Vinces.

(I figured this one long post would be better than making a new thread. I was planning to reveal this, anyway, but, found this thread.)

[AnchorAlumna]

Notebook? I have no idea what all that means.

Alpha Phi Omega, back when it was all male. You could also join an IFC group, although it apparently did not usually work out. From what I'm told.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Notebook? I have no idea what all that means.

Alpha Phi Omega, back when it was all male. You could also join an IFC group, although it apparently did not usually work out. From what I'm told.

Being in both Alpha Phi Omega and a Social Fraternity goes back *all* the way to the beginning. Of the 14 founders, 8 were active brothers of Sigma Alpha Epsilon, 5 were active brothers of a local social fraternity called Krescents (that a year later became a Kappa Delta Rho chapter) and 1 was an independent and all as far as I know stayed active in their social fraternity as well. Not sure when the first occurence of joining Alpha Phi Omega first and then joining a social, but I'd bet *quite* early.

[33girl]

Whether A Phi O membership + social GLO membership varies widely from campus to campus, and also from person to person.
(Even if it's super fine on your campus and you consistently blow off one for the other, it's not going to work.) But then again, that's true in any case of dual membership.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Whether A Phi O membership + social GLO membership varies widely from campus to campus, and also from person to person.
(Even if it's super fine on your campus and you consistently blow off one for the other, it's not going to work.) But then again, that's true in any case of dual membership.

I think you dropped the word "works" before varies, but I agree on the principle. I'm talking about the rules and history of the organization, not whether it is going to work for one particular student at one particular school. My degree is a bachelors in math, not a doctorate in Psych.

[aephi alum]

Originally Posted by naraht

Being in both Alpha Phi Omega and a Social Fraternity goes back *all* the way to the beginning. <snip> Not sure when the first occurence of joining Alpha Phi Omega first and then joining a social, but I'd bet *quite* early.

More than likely, is my WAG.

I pledged a local that, about a year after I was initiated, became a chapter of AEPhi. One of the women who founded the local is an APO brother. I'm sure she's not the first brother to found a new social GLO (a local or a chapter of a national GLO) but I'd be interested to know who was... and which GLO.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by aephi alum

More than likely, is my WAG.

I pledged a local that, about a year after I was initiated, became a chapter of AEPhi. One of the women who founded the local is an APO brother. I'm sure she's not the first brother to found a new social GLO (a local or a chapter of a national GLO) but I'd be interested to know who was... and which GLO.

Well, my expectation is a) given that APO didn't allow women until 1976 (as full brothers) that it was probably a fraternity and b) That it has happened, simply because of the tens of thousands of men who have been chartering brothers for a social GLO between 1925 and 1976, the chances that all of them were not APO is small.

Beyond that, I'm not sure where to research that, the Alpha Phi Omega national magazine might or might not cover that, but perhaps the magazines for the individual social fraternities.

[Billy_Optimist]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Notebook? I have no idea what all that means.

An order/charge/chapter/whatever is said to be "notebooked," or, a "note-book order" if their ritual books are spiral bound, like a notebook. They are in the dark (i.e. missing significant portions of their rituals)

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by Billy_Optimist

I did this. Kind of.

Here is what happened. I was recognized as having Prodigious Mind Syndrome, at a very young age. I got to go to a fancy college, and, earned an advanced degree(a couple, actually) when I was only around 3, or, 4. So, whichever society I joined, on account of my ancestry, was just at that college.

Then, when I was around 10, or, 11, I had to go, again, to a different college, to prove that my earlier degrees were no fluke. Easy, peasy, lemon-squeezy. That was easy as. So, I joined a fraternity there, based on my ancestry, again. I did this, again, a few years later, around age 16, and, joined a different fraternity. They had the same public letters, but, it was a completely different fraternity. This is on purpose. No two are the same.

So, I had the opportunity to go, again, at a normal college age, and, wanted that experience. Well, when I got to that campus, all, except one, of the fraternities, there, were notebooked. So, instead of joining the local fraternity which had the same public letters as the other fraternity I joined, I opted to join a different one, one that was just being started.

This is fine, because, notebooked orders are imitation orders, at best. Not real fraternities, not real orders of their "parent" organization, and, typically, filled with total asshats who give Greek Life a bad name.

So, anyway, this colony gets initiated, and, they go all out. They have a mock ceremony, for everyone, and, then a private ceremony, for their "real brothers." I found this out later.

Well, I quit this "fraternity", transferred (for the first of 27 times), re-joined the second fraternity I joined (being older while pledging changes the experience, completey. I was regular brother, not the younger brother.) So, anyway, both national organizations were made aware of these incidents.

This is allowed. If you joined a gypsy fraternity, you can still join my fraternity, if you qualify. Also, if you were from a notebook order, you can join, because, notebooks fail to fully initiate their brothers.

If anyone remembers the name of the fraternity (I thought) I joined, and, from which I demitted, I hope he will keep it a secret.

I am, and, remain, a brother of the Sigma Chi Fraternity.

In Hoc Signo Vinces.

(I figured this one long post would be better than making a new thread. I was planning to reveal this, anyway, but, found this thread.)

None of this makes a damned bit of sense. I seriously call bull$hit.

[Billy_Optimist]

Originally Posted by thetalady

None of this makes a damned bit of sense. I seriously call bull$hit.

Well, it is all true. I could less what someone from the internet thinks.

You should kill yourself.

You are embarrassment to Theta, and, far from a lady.

[ARKTTKA]

Originally Posted by Billy_Optimist

Well, it is all true. I could less what someone from the internet thinks.

You should kill yourself.

You are embarrassment to Theta, and, far from a lady.

WOW! Are you allowed to interact with other people in the real world? "You should kill yourself" REALLY?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by ARKTTKA

WOW! Are you allowed to interact with other people in the real world? "You should kill yourself" REALLY?

He's mentally ill, I believe.

That said, we're only going to tolerate so much of that nonsense.