Transferring/lying about sororities?

[Sciencewoman]

Originally Posted by stufield

It was no problem in either instance; the individuals simply had to pay two sets of pledge and initiation fees, and be completely mum about their respective initial memberships.

But they told you, so they must not have been able maintain their discretion. Was any action ever taken against them by either of the groups each one joined? I feel that at some point, this could still catch up with someone even if they've gotten away with it during their college years, especially with social media and alumni/ae finding long-lost sisters and brothers via Facebook.

[stufield]

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman

But they told you, so they must not have been able maintain their discretion. Was any action ever taken against them by either of the groups each one joined? I feel that at some point, this could still catch up with someone even if they've gotten away with it during their college years, especially with social media and alumni/ae finding long-lost sisters and brothers via Facebook.

They both told me, in separate conversations years and miles apart, several years after they graduated. And I have seen their names on alum lists, and both get correspondence from both their respective organizations.

[Titchou]

I'm not saying it couldn't happen but I'm wondering why one of the two groups hasn't expelled them if they now know about it. Also, as far back as the 70's, my group has had a rule that chapter at campus B has to get written approval from chapter at campus A to pledge a woman. So if I went to Oregon State and was a member of AAA and then moved to Texas Tech, my org at TTU would check with our chapter at OSU to see if I had ever been thru recruitment and what the outcome had been. Then my chapter at TTU would tell PH that I already belonged to AAA and they would stop me from participating in recruitment. It would have been hard to do what you say.

[Sciencewoman]

Originally Posted by Titchou

I'm not saying it couldn't happen but I'm wondering why one of the two groups hasn't expelled them if they now know about it. Also, as far back as the 70's, my group has had a rule that chapter at campus B has to get written approval from chapter at campus A to pledge a woman. So if I went to Oregon State and was a member of AAA and then moved to Texas Tech, my org at TTU would check with our chapter at OSU to see if I had ever been thru recruitment and what the outcome had been. Then my chapter at TTU would tell PH that I already belonged to AAA and they would stop me from participating in recruitment. It would have been hard to do what you say.

I'm somewhat confused...could you please clarify? I'm not sure if you're referring to affiliation (checking with the original chapter if a transfer student claims to be a member of your group who joined at another university, which seems reasonable and I think is common place), or if you're saying that ALL transfer PNMs are checked out with the chapter of your sorority at the transfer student's original university, to see if that chapter can verify if she joined any sorority at the original school. That seems like it would require a great deal of investigative effort/communication on the part of both chapters, especially if it's attempted before recruitment starts and you'd have to research the whole pool of transfer PNMs. What if there isn't a chapter of your sorority at the original school...does the new chapter still attempt an investigation? Like calling PH at the original school?

[Titchou]

Only if there is a chapter at the previous school are we supposed to check. It's possible they had a rec on her when she went thru and they would have record of that. I actually was involved with checking a PNM who had been thru recruitment at school A and came to campus B with a good rec from a neighbor. Checking with her previous campus we found a "no" rec - and it was a valid reason. The neighbor knew nothing about the information in the "no"rec. It saved us from a mistake.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by stufield

They both told me, in separate conversations years and miles apart, several years after they graduated. And I have seen their names on alum lists, and both get correspondence from both their respective organizations.

Out if curiosity, what time frame was this?

Also, were the sororities similar in size and scope? Don't name names, but I'm just trying to get a handle on this. I know that unfortunately there were/are campuses out there not well versed Panhellenically, to say the least.