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Old 10-21-2015, 05:20 PM
ChioLu ChioLu is offline
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Space to build housing is an issue at several schools.
GA Tech -- from the campus map, I don't see available space (unless it's by the North Campus parking deck or the University President's house)
Univ. of Oklahoma -- what house is ADG using temporarily while their house is being repaired (fire damage)? Does KD still own their house if they were chosen to recolonize?
USC (California) - unless there's a fraternity that has recently closed, it would be difficult & costly to acquire housing in this area of Los Angeles. And, I believe, most of the sororities have security guards nightly (added cost).

irishpipes -- what are your honorable mentions?
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Old 10-21-2015, 07:09 PM
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Space to build housing is an issue at several schools.
GA Tech -- from the campus map, I don't see available space (unless it's by the North Campus parking deck or the University President's house)
Univ. of Oklahoma -- what house is ADG using temporarily while their house is being repaired (fire damage)? Does KD still own their house if they were chosen to recolonize?
USC (California) - unless there's a fraternity that has recently closed, it would be difficult & costly to acquire housing in this area of Los Angeles. And, I believe, most of the sororities have security guards nightly (added cost).

irishpipes -- what are your honorable mentions?
Since you asked

In no order:
U North Alabama (Q 45, QLY 37, 4 NPC, last colony AGD 1977)
U South Alabama (Q 47, QLY 39, 5 NPC, last colony AGD 1984)
Northern Arizona (Q 72, QLY 65, 8 NPC, last colony KD 2015)
U Central Arkansas (Q 52, QLY 54, 5 NPC, last colony SSS 2008)
CSU - East Bay (Q 48, QLY 44, T 80, 2 NPC, last colony AP 1987)
CSU Fullerton (Q 61, QLY 71, 6 NPC, last colony ZTA 1979)
CSU Los Angeles (Q 45, QLY 29, 2 NPC, last colony AST 1993)
Chapman (Q 60s, 8 NPC, last colony PBP 2015)
San Francisco State (Q 46, QLY 39, 3 NPC, last colony AGD 1991)
George Washington (Q 53ish, QLY 53, 10 NPC, last colony KD 2012)
McNeese State (Q 43, QLY 30, 3 NPC, last colony ZTA 1971-1982)
Nicholls State (Q 55, QLY 48, 3 NPC, last colony AST 1997-2002)
U Louisiana Monroe (Q 42, QLY 40, 3 NPC, last colony SK 1986-2003)
East Tennessee State (Q 50, QLY 50, 4 NPC, last colony AXiD 1996)
U Texas Arlington (Q 50ish, QLY 33, 3 NPC, last colony AXO)
Colgate (Q 50-60, 3 NPC, last colony DDD 1996)

Also, I didn't include Florida, LSU, or Ole Miss because they have current expansion underway. (But we all know the current expansion won't be enough.) I didn't include Alabama because I wasn't sure - is it open? Isn't it?

And most of the toughest, neediest schools have some major barrier to colonization - that's why they're desperate. Usually it's housing, but sometimes campus culture is a major issue.
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:35 PM
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Also, I didn't include Florida, LSU, or Ole Miss because they have current expansion underway. (But we all know the current expansion won't be enough.) I didn't include Alabama because I wasn't sure - is it open? Isn't it?
My understanding is that it's open for expansion, but that, of the sororities that aren't currently there, the groups are either not interested (at least right now) or don't have the resources to fully commit, so there aren't a lot of options left for the university.

Sigma Kappa/AXiD might be options in the future, but they didn't choose to apply the last time Bama opened up. They both are involved in a spate of other recent or upcoming bigger colonizations, so maybe when those are more established, they'll have more energy to put towards Alabama. But it's also possible that they have no intention of ever applying again since both seem to have some lingering negative feelings about their previous experiences at Bama. (And, I mean, it's just a huge commitment not only in terms of money but time and energy as well, and we have no clue when the Greek growth bubble that we're in the midst of is gonna pop.)

My understanding (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) is also that DPhiE was the only group that presented last time Alabama opened up, and the university chose not to extend them an invitation to colonize. I think they were planning their Georgia recolonization around the same time, though, and maybe that was part of the university's hesitation? But it's also possible they were worried about the alum base/culture fit/any one of a thousand things that won't change.

Beyond that I'm not really sure what options the university has. Does SDT still have a house there? It might be a good time for their nationals to come in and do a reorganization (by which I mean keep the current members but also try to do a big new rush with nationals' assistance--not sure what the correct terminology is for that). With Alabama taking increasingly more out-of-state students, there might be some more leeway for less traditional sorority experiences than there has been at Bama in the past.

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Old 10-21-2015, 11:53 PM
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But I think a goodly number of those OOS students who are going there and going Greek are there BECAUSE they want the traditional Southern sorority experience.
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:27 AM
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But I think a goodly number of those OOS students who are going there and going Greek are there BECAUSE they want the traditional Southern sorority experience.
OR...they want that experience, but are more open-minded about sororities and not so concerned with tiers like in-state girls or out-of-state girls with Bama friend or family connections would be. OR...if Rush just isn't working out for them, they haven't heard about being in ABC house their entire lives, so they're more open to other activities.

I went to HS with a ton of young women who were technically out of state, but grew up going to games and basically knew that they'd be going to Bama--and, they (and their moms!) also had an idea about which sororities they'd join.
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Old 10-22-2015, 11:37 AM
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Re: Alabama - I'm not any kind of official, but my feeling is that expansion is on hold right now due to construction. 3 houses are being built, and there are only two "swing" houses (older houses being used temporarily by sororities under construction) which means ZTA is unhoused right now.

Once those houses are occupied, there will be 3 more to build.
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Does SDT still have a house there?
SDT occupies a small university-owned houses on "new" fraternity row. They conduct their own recruitment separate from NPC's, although they are included (along with unhoused Christian sorority Alpha Delta Chi) in the Alabama Panhellenic Association.
They have been doing quite well the last few years.
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Old 10-22-2015, 12:05 PM
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OMG CSU East Bay REALLY needs to expand!!!!!

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Since you asked

In no order:
U North Alabama (Q 45, QLY 37, 4 NPC, last colony AGD 1977)
U South Alabama (Q 47, QLY 39, 5 NPC, last colony AGD 1984)
Northern Arizona (Q 72, QLY 65, 8 NPC, last colony KD 2015)
U Central Arkansas (Q 52, QLY 54, 5 NPC, last colony SSS 2008)
CSU - East Bay (Q 48, QLY 44, T 80, 2 NPC, last colony AP 1987)
CSU Fullerton (Q 61, QLY 71, 6 NPC, last colony ZTA 1979)
CSU Los Angeles (Q 45, QLY 29, 2 NPC, last colony AST 1993)
Chapman (Q 60s, 8 NPC, last colony PBP 2015)
San Francisco State (Q 46, QLY 39, 3 NPC, last colony AGD 1991)
George Washington (Q 53ish, QLY 53, 10 NPC, last colony KD 2012)
McNeese State (Q 43, QLY 30, 3 NPC, last colony ZTA 1971-1982)
Nicholls State (Q 55, QLY 48, 3 NPC, last colony AST 1997-2002)
U Louisiana Monroe (Q 42, QLY 40, 3 NPC, last colony SK 1986-2003)
East Tennessee State (Q 50, QLY 50, 4 NPC, last colony AXiD 1996)
U Texas Arlington (Q 50ish, QLY 33, 3 NPC, last colony AXO)
Colgate (Q 50-60, 3 NPC, last colony DDD 1996)

Also, I didn't include Florida, LSU, or Ole Miss because they have current expansion underway. (But we all know the current expansion won't be enough.) I didn't include Alabama because I wasn't sure - is it open? Isn't it?

And most of the toughest, neediest schools have some major barrier to colonization - that's why they're desperate. Usually it's housing, but sometimes campus culture is a major issue.
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Old 10-22-2015, 03:25 PM
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Since you asked

In no order:
U North Alabama (Q 45, QLY 37, 4 NPC, last colony AGD 1977)
U South Alabama (Q 47, QLY 39, 5 NPC, last colony AGD 1984)
Northern Arizona (Q 72, QLY 65, 8 NPC, last colony KD 2015)
U Central Arkansas (Q 52, QLY 54, 5 NPC, last colony SSS 2008)
CSU - East Bay (Q 48, QLY 44, T 80, 2 NPC, last colony AP 1987)
CSU Fullerton (Q 61, QLY 71, 6 NPC, last colony ZTA 1979)
CSU Los Angeles (Q 45, QLY 29, 2 NPC, last colony AST 1993)
Chapman (Q 60s, 8 NPC, last colony PBP 2015)
San Francisco State (Q 46, QLY 39, 3 NPC, last colony AGD 1991)
George Washington (Q 53ish, QLY 53, 10 NPC, last colony KD 2012)
McNeese State (Q 43, QLY 30, 3 NPC, last colony ZTA 1971-1982)
Nicholls State (Q 55, QLY 48, 3 NPC, last colony AST 1997-2002)
U Louisiana Monroe (Q 42, QLY 40, 3 NPC, last colony SK 1986-2003)
East Tennessee State (Q 50, QLY 50, 4 NPC, last colony AXiD 1996)
U Texas Arlington (Q 50ish, QLY 33, 3 NPC, last colony AXO)
Colgate (Q 50-60, 3 NPC, last colony DDD 1996)

Also, I didn't include Florida, LSU, or Ole Miss because they have current expansion underway. (But we all know the current expansion won't be enough.) I didn't include Alabama because I wasn't sure - is it open? Isn't it?

And most of the toughest, neediest schools have some major barrier to colonization - that's why they're desperate. Usually it's housing, but sometimes campus culture is a major issue.
I don't see ULM expanding anytime soon. There is no problem with growing out of housing. There is a pretty established idea that 3 chapters can survive well, but a fourth will always fail. When SK left campus, ULM was getting 10 women total going through recruitment. It's amazing that the 3 remaining groups all survived that period.
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