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09-15-2015, 04:28 PM
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So did Jane not end up with a bid from B?
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09-15-2015, 04:41 PM
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So did Jane not end up with a bid from B?
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"Jane" ended up with a bid from A even though A was 3rd on Jane's preference list.
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09-15-2015, 04:39 PM
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I feel like that would be possible if Jane matched with her second choice, Suzy didn't match anywhere, then became a QA
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09-15-2015, 05:26 PM
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Well, she wouldn't have been on C's bid list because she didn't attend preference (most likely). So, C is irrelevant. She wasn't high enough on B's bid list to get a bid from B.
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09-15-2015, 05:36 PM
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Well, she wouldn't have been on C's bid list because she didn't attend preference (most likely). So, C is irrelevant. She wasn't high enough on B's bid list to get a bid from B.
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Did you read the OP's post? Jane WAS high enough on B's list. ETA: that's why Titchou responded that she would have matched with B.
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09-15-2015, 08:44 PM
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Unless the PNM is fibbing and didn't really put "B" as #1 on her bid card?
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09-15-2015, 05:43 PM
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Again did you read, G&Q? OP is the RECRUITMENT ADVISOR!!!!! not yelling, just getting your attention. talk to me about being distracted.
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09-15-2015, 05:46 PM
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Sorry, distracted! You are correct. Yeah, no idea how that scenario would happen where Jane ends up with a bid from A
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09-15-2015, 09:30 PM
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^^^ but that would be known to the Recruitment Advisor, would it not? If the campus is using computerized bid matching, and the rankings were what she stated they were, this wouldn't happen. I think something's not right.
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09-15-2015, 09:46 PM
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This is my first year doing bid-matching, we match by hand, and I am pretty nervous for stuff like this  Thankfully our recruitment advisor is a pro- I would be a wreck by now just thinking about it if it wasn't for her
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09-16-2015, 03:03 PM
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Who's lying? (not being argumentative, just trying to figure out what's what!). Is Jane lying and to whom? Is the OP lying?
The OP is the Rush Advisor for Chapter B, so as LAblondeGPhi stated, she's got access to her own chapter's bid list. Jane was #15 on their list. So Jane should have gone to B.
Like I said - something's not right! I'll spell it out - somebody messed up during bid matching, for whatever reason(s). Sounds like there are some unhappy folks at this campus - especially if Jane wanted B, was high on their list, and ended up elsewhere. No way that is supposed to happen.
How you gonna fix this one? I know what I would do.
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09-16-2015, 03:25 PM
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Like I said - something's not right! I'll spell it out - somebody messed up during bid matching, for whatever reason(s). Sounds like there are some unhappy folks at this campus - especially if Jane wanted B, was high on their list, and ended up elsewhere. No way that is supposed to happen.
How you gonna fix this one? I know what I would do.
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Oh man - didn't someone post somewhere about a PNM who was the daughter of a sitting international council member, attended pref at her legacy chapter, ranked them #1, then didn't get a bid due to some kind of screw up, but the powers that be realized it right away and placed her in the chapter within a few days of Bid Day? I seem to recall that it was a recent incident, but I can't remember if the chapter made a mistake in entering their bid list or if Panhellenic did.
Also - how do most campuses have PNMs fill out their bid card? Do they have them fill out a hard copy and then a Rho Chi/Gamma enters it into a computer? If that's the case, I suppose data entry errors could be a problem, too.
By the way - I'm amending my 99.9% statement. I have seen a couple of minor errors here and there with ICS, and user error is occasionally a factor - on either side.
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09-16-2015, 09:18 PM
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Who's lying? (not being argumentative, just trying to figure out what's what!). Is Jane lying and to whom? Is the OP lying?
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The sentiment in the thread seems to be that Jane the PNM is lying. The OP/Recruitment advisor knows where she fell on their bid list, and knows that she was within the first bid list, i.e. before they reached quota.
PNM Jane claims that she put B first. AXOrushadvisor was saying that in 100% of the situations she is familiar with the PNM is lying. This may be due to:
1. Regretting the ranking order that she actually did choose and trying to wiggle out of it to get into the other chapter
2. Trying to save face with friends of hers in the chapter. "I put you first but got my second choice" so that she wouldn't have to admit that she didn't want to choose their chapter.
I am skeptical about computer error with matching. If the name was outside the first bid list there may be a minuscule chance of it getting flubbed, but I just don't see how that can happen when you fall within the first bid list.
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09-18-2015, 09:09 PM
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The sentiment in the thread seems to be that Jane the PNM is lying. The OP/Recruitment advisor knows where she fell on their bid list, and knows that she was within the first bid list, i.e. before they reached quota.
PNM Jane claims that she put B first. AXOrushadvisor was saying that in 100% of the situations she is familiar with the PNM is lying. This may be due to:
1. Regretting the ranking order that she actually did choose and trying to wiggle out of it to get into the other chapter
2. Trying to save face with friends of hers in the chapter. "I put you first but got my second choice" so that she wouldn't have to admit that she didn't want to choose their chapter.
I am skeptical about computer error with matching. If the name was outside the first bid list there may be a minuscule chance of it getting flubbed, but I just don't see how that can happen when you fall within the first bid list.
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I am thinking there was either an error with the data entry, but something the Greek Life Coordinator said was that the software wasn't working right...It is entirely possible that "Jane" is lying (I don't know her well enough to say one way or the other). What I do know is that she has been going up to members of "B" and asking why we didn't want her. I'm hoping that she isn't just trying to stir up trouble, but who should I reach out to?
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I am thinking there was either an error with the data entry, but something the Greek Life Coordinator said was that the software wasn't working right...It is entirely possible that "Jane" is lying (I don't know her well enough to say one way or the other). What I do know is that she has been going up to members of "B" and asking why we didn't want her. I'm hoping that she isn't just trying to stir up trouble, but who should I reach out to?
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Do/did you want her? If so, ask the GL coordinator to look further into this software issue. I would also ask the GLC if any other rushees have had issues, and if Jane is the only one, she most likely is a liar with pants on fire.
If not, all you or your sisters have to say is "I'm sorry, but we can't discuss membership selection. I hope you have fun in A."
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