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Old 08-18-2015, 09:36 AM
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Would it be okay if they used a white football player? I really don't think APhi and Drake gave a second thought to how it would look in terms of "race and diversity", so I'm not sure why the rest of the world is.

If you look at that video and all you take away is a message about race that's your presumption. It's something you are noticing.

Bama is a huge football school so they asked a player to be in the video. He agreed. What's the big deal?
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Old 08-18-2015, 10:13 AM
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If a guy (regardless of color) is just in there because he's a football player (or student senate president or in a popular fraternity) and has zero connection to the chapter, it kind of looks like they paid him to show up and appear just to look like they know the right people. Chapters are told up and down not to discuss boys during recruitment, I don't understand how this is any different.
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Old 08-18-2015, 10:52 AM
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Who exactly started the "outrage" about this? I didn't see any source of the outrage; just the thinkpieces/"news" stories saying that there was an outrage.

As a sidebar -- wasn't Bama the school that had the big PR push to show "yay we accept the blacks" a year or two ago?
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Old 08-19-2015, 03:41 PM
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Who exactly started the "outrage" about this? I didn't see any source of the outrage; just the thinkpieces/"news" stories saying that there was an outrage.

As a sidebar -- wasn't Bama the school that had the big PR push to show "yay we accept the blacks" a year or two ago?
The media and its enables are trying to play the "Greek life is damaging to America! It's an archaic institution that should be abolished!" and "Not an ounce of diversity shown " cards. Guess what, I was the only minority in my fraternity. Did I say quietly to myself "Where are my people?" No.

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Old 08-18-2015, 07:08 PM
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If a guy (regardless of color) is just in there because he's a football player (or student senate president or in a popular fraternity) and has zero connection to the chapter, it kind of looks like they paid him to show up and appear just to look like they know the right people. Chapters are told up and down not to discuss boys during recruitment, I don't understand how this is any different.
Agree with the bolded.
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:16 PM
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If you look at that video and all you take away is a message about race that's your presumption. It's something you are noticing.
If you* are able to go through life without noticing race, that's a privilege.

*I mean the general you, not Nanners specifically.
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Old 08-18-2015, 02:40 PM
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Would it be okay if they used a white football player? I really don't think APhi and Drake gave a second thought to how it would look in terms of "race and diversity", so I'm not sure why the rest of the world is.

If you look at that video and all you take away is a message about race that's your presumption. It's something you are noticing.

Bama is a huge football school so they asked a player to be in the video. He agreed. What's the big deal?
I already explained why it was problematic to me. I am not going to engage whether it would be okay if they used a white football player because they did not.

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If a guy (regardless of color) is just in there because he's a football player (or student senate president or in a popular fraternity) and has zero connection to the chapter, it kind of looks like they paid him to show up and appear just to look like they know the right people. Chapters are told up and down not to discuss boys during recruitment, I don't understand how this is any different.
I agree with that, too. But I don't want to ignore that they chose to use a black man as an accessory (1) and that there are no black women in the video (2).

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If you* are able to go through life without noticing race, that's a privilege.

*I mean the general you, not Nanners specifically.
But Nanners specifically also.
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