RFM-pref day

carnation · #1 08-16-2015, 11:17 AM

I'm talking about everywhere. Yes, on GC, but mostly women whom I know through various groups,from being in school with my daughters (I have 9), students of 2 of my kids who are teachers, just from various places. I would say I personally know at least 40 PNMs every year and maybe 5-10 end up in the A, B, or C scenario. And at schools where C is an extremely WRC, if the girl gets C, she walks away from her bid.

AlphaXi_Husky · #2 08-16-2015, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by carnation

I'm talking about everywhere. Yes, on GC, but mostly women whom I know through various groups,from being in school with my daughters (I have 9), students of 2 of my kids who are teachers, just from various places. I would say I personally know at least 40 PNMs every year and maybe 5-10 end up in the A, B, or C scenario. And at schools where C is an extremely WRC, if the girl gets C, she walks away from her bid.

I think it's just a numbers game at that point though. If you've known 40 PNMs and 1/8 to 1/4 of them get a bid to a WRC, or even the weakest RC, then honestly that sounds about right to me. Even if the other Pref parties they went to weren't other WRCs. Just like I would expect 1/8 to 1/4 of them to get SRCs or even the strongest RC, even if they had only the SRC and two WRC for Pref.

Do PNMs preffing SRCs tend to pref other SRCs? Sure. However I've noticed now that RFM has been going on a while, there is a lot more cross-preffing between SRCs and just-okay RCs, and even WRCs.

As for your last sentence, I'm sure you would agree that's more of a campus environment thing than anything else. RFM isn't going to help that much in that situation.

carnation · #3 08-16-2015, 11:41 AM

I've already talked with several PNMs this year who've been in or are in this situation. "How should I gamble? That I list all 3 and hope for A or B? Or should I only list A and B and hope I don't get the call?"

Had we had this situation when I was rushing, I would've been a basket case!

AlphaXi_Husky · #4 08-16-2015, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by carnation

I've already talked with several PNMs this year who've been in or are in this situation. "How should I gamble? That I list all 3 and hope for A or B? Or should I only list A and B and hope I don't get the call?"

Had we had this situation when I was rushing, I would've been a basket case!

I think it really depends on if they can see themselves in Chapter C. If they can't, or they're going to ruin bid day by crying all over Chapter C's decorations and spirits, then don't list Chapter C.

If it's the type of campus where it's "pledge as a freshman or don't even try going Greek", then it depends on how badly the PNM wants to be Greek, ANY Greek.

It's a tough call in any case!

KDCat · #5 08-16-2015, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation

I've already talked with several PNMs this year who've been in or are in this situation. "How should I gamble? That I list all 3 and hope for A or B? Or should I only list A and B and hope I don't get the call?"

Had we had this situation when I was rushing, I would've been a basket case!

My advice is to NOT list C unless you are willing to accept a bid from them and make it work. If you HATE C, then don't list them. The most likely outcome is that you are going to be placed at C, rather than be a quota addition. You are better off not being bound to a C bid and hoping for COB opportunities.

DeltaBetaBaby · #6 08-17-2015, 10:23 AM

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My advice is to NOT list C unless you are willing to accept a bid from them and make it work. If you HATE C, then don't list them. The most likely outcome is that you are going to be placed at C, rather than be a quota addition. You are better off not being bound to a C bid and hoping for COB opportunities.

But really, I would say that listing C means you don't have to make a decision immediately. If you get C, you can see how you feel once you've gotten some sleep, met your pledge sisters, gotten started with classes, etc. Whereas not listing C, and ending up bidless, can mean never getting to go Greek on a lot of campuses.

Often when I am super-stressed about a decision, the most comforting thing is knowing I can delay the decision. Listing all three on your bid card does that, in a way.

thetalady · #7 08-17-2015, 10:37 AM

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But really, I would say that listing C means you don't have to make a decision immediately. If you get C, you can see how you feel once you've gotten some sleep, met your pledge sisters, gotten started with classes, etc. Whereas not listing C, and ending up bidless, can mean never getting to go Greek on a lot of campuses.

Listing C and pledging to see how you feel about them later also makes her ineligible for any COB possibilities for a year.

DeltaBetaBaby · #8 08-17-2015, 11:44 AM

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Listing C and pledging to see how you feel about them later also makes her ineligible for any COB possibilities for a year.

Yes, so it's obviously campus dependent, but a lot of us know that formal recruitment in your freshman year is how 99% of women join chapters in the SEC.

KDCat · #9 08-17-2015, 03:42 PM

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But really, I would say that listing C means you don't have to make a decision immediately. If you get C, you can see how you feel once you've gotten some sleep, met your pledge sisters, gotten started with classes, etc. Whereas not listing C, and ending up bidless, can mean never getting to go Greek on a lot of campuses.

Often when I am super-stressed about a decision, the most comforting thing is knowing I can delay the decision. Listing all three on your bid card does that, in a way.

It depends on what the COB environment looks like on your campus. If there are groups that may COB, but weren't among your pref parties, then you could be better off not putting down C. If you don't put down C, you are able to attend COB at houses that aren't A, B, or C.

If you put down C and are given a C bid, you are bound to that bid for one year. If you don't put down C and don't get a C bid, and X or Y or Z have COB, then you can attend those COB events and take a COB bid if one is offered.

If you are on a campus where COB is practically unheard of, and you want to try and can be positive while you try, then putting down C is a not a bad idea.

Even if you don't list C, though, if they don't make quota, then they are probably doing COB. You can go back to C during COB and give them a second look, without committing to anything.

AXOrushadvisor · #10 08-17-2015, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation

I've already talked with several PNMs this year who've been in or are in this situation. "How should I gamble? That I list all 3 and hope for A or B? Or should I only list A and B and hope I don't get the call?"

Had we had this situation when I was rushing, I would've been a basket case!

If it were my daughter I wouldn't have her list C if she absolutely can not see herself there. Her chances on getting C IMO are greater then being a quota addition because C will fill at a slower rate IF it is a WRC.