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08-06-2015, 10:18 AM
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I imagine they're as choosy as they're allowed to be. RFM ties your hands sometimes. Unless you're suggesting booting sisters who aren't contributing?
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This is one of those times where I don't like RFM. No chapter should be forced to invite people back and disallowed the ability to cut, especially if they are the only ones in that predicament. But yes, I am wholeheartedly advocating booting sisters who never show up for anything and contribute 0 to the chapter. They're a mental and emotional drain on the rest of the group. Letter Pimps, jacket sisters, whatever you want to call them - I don't understand the mindset of paying for something and never using it, but it's out there, and it's worst of all for small chapters. 50 girls who do everything is better than 80 girls, 40 of which do nothing. I also can't understand if there's a push back from HQ on terminating girls like this which does sometimes happen. If she can't bother to show up to things as a collegian, do you really think she's going to do anything as an alumna?
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08-06-2015, 10:43 AM
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Letter Pimps, jacket sisters, whatever you want to call them
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Adding these phrases to my repertoire.
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Originally Posted by 33girl
50 girls who do everything is better than 80 girls, 40 of which do nothing. I also can't understand if there's a push back from HQ on terminating girls like this which does sometimes happen. If she can't bother to show up to things as a collegian, do you really think she's going to do anything as an alumna?
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While I also don't like dead weight, it's a poor idea to deliberately drop down to 50 women when rounds are 60+ pnms. Better to pair "less desirable" pnms with less-than-stellar sisters than to triple rush, IMHO. (Not to mention all the problems that come with being at a third of campus total.)
I don't think anyone should be forced to take people who won't uphold the organization's values, or whose presence will actively contribute to the chapter's problems (reputation etc.) instead of helping alleviate it (or at the very least maintaining the status quo). The consequences of enforcing zero cuts is awful to think about, because you do wind up shooting yourself in the foot and scaring off quality pnms. With that in mind, quantity breeds quality. It's okay to have some people who really only contribute by providing dues and some conversation during recruitment if it gets you closer to total and making quota. That will allow you the luxury of stronger cuts in the future.
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08-06-2015, 11:22 AM
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Better to pair "less desirable" pnms with less-than-stellar sisters than to triple rush, IMHO.
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I agree with a lot of what's been said in this thread, but as for specifically Formal Recruitment, this is going to be your best strategy.
You need to find the women coming through that both are going to improve your chapter and that you have the best shot at pledging. These may be women your chapter members already know, or out-of-state women who aren't as familiar with your campus. These are NOT the women that every other chapter is swooning over.
Identify the top recruiters in your chapter and have them AND ONLY THEM talk to these women. In my experience, like recruits like, so you need to have good recruiters talking to the women you want.
While this will take time to work, I have seen chapters improve using this strategy.
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08-06-2015, 01:50 PM
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Chapters are not FORCED to invite women back. They cannot be forced to provide a "plus" list, only a minus list.
As for letter pimps, you take em to standards and get them out. Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by 33girl
This is one of those times where I don't like RFM. No chapter should be forced to invite people back and disallowed the ability to cut, especially if they are the only ones in that predicament. But yes, I am wholeheartedly advocating booting sisters who never show up for anything and contribute 0 to the chapter. They're a mental and emotional drain on the rest of the group. Letter Pimps, jacket sisters, whatever you want to call them - I don't understand the mindset of paying for something and never using it, but it's out there, and it's worst of all for small chapters. 50 girls who do everything is better than 80 girls, 40 of which do nothing. I also can't understand if there's a push back from HQ on terminating girls like this which does sometimes happen. If she can't bother to show up to things as a collegian, do you really think she's going to do anything as an alumna?
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08-06-2015, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by shadokat
Chapters are not FORCED to invite women back. They cannot be forced to provide a "plus" list, only a minus list.
As for letter pimps, you take em to standards and get them out. Plain and simple.
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She said in another post that their advisors were forcing them to invite back anyone with a high enough GPA. Disempowering the chapter in this way doesn't help their confidence. They'd be better off to invite back a smaller amount of women that they've gotten to know through activities, dorm neighbors etc (I don't get the impression this is a rec-necessary school) and make them feel special, rather than having to pander to women who are going to rip them apart the minute they walk out the door.
And yes, every chapter needs worker bees who aren't super gung ho. I'm not talking about them. Those worker bees are often the best bigs, the most skilled sign makers - things that may not be easy to verbalize in rush but are important in day to day life. I'm talking about the women who never show up to anything and never give any support - in effect, the women that you feel like you are still rushing even though they've been members for a couple semesters. Those kind of women are toxic in rush. They're only there because they'll get fined if they don't show. They're resented by the rest of the membership, for good reason, and the PNMs can see it. Hopefully that isn't half your chapter, but if it is, my recommendation still stands - get them out.
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08-06-2015, 05:49 PM
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I'm talking about the women who never show up to anything and never give any support - in effect, the women that you feel like you are still rushing even though they've been members for a couple semesters.
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Does anybody else call them ghost members?
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