Former UCF Fraternity Taunts University As A Frat With No Rules

[33girl]

What is the six week moratorium dry period every semester? Are they talking about pledging? Because if so, they are right - dry pledging is hazing.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

What is the six week moratorium dry period every semester? Are they talking about pledging? Because if so, they are right - dry pledging is hazing.

As we've discussed, when it comes to the definition of hazing, YMMV. One of my organization's top chapters has dry pledging for the entire semester and was featured doing so in our international publication. So I would be safe to state for the purposes of Sigma Nu, dry pledging is just fine.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Kevin

As we've discussed, when it comes to the definition of hazing, YMMV. One of my organization's top chapters has dry pledging for the entire semester and was featured doing so in our international publication. So I would be safe to state for the purposes of Sigma Nu, dry pledging is just fine.

People get confused if all the members of the pledge classes are underage. But then they shouldn't be not drinking because they are pledges, they should be not drinking because they are under age. I doubt that the group touted in your national magazine would admit that underage brothers are being served. FWIW, a nonsmoking pledge period would also be hazing.

Anyway back to the main topic... Whether or not the group succeeds largely depends on their position in the social pecking order before they were de recognized, and how important the functions that recognized organizations take part in (homecoming, Greek week etc) are to the campus.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I doubt that the group touted in your national magazine would admit that underage brothers are being served. FWIW, a nonsmoking pledge period would also be hazing.

A nonsmoking pledgeship or nonsmoking pledge period would not be hazing per my fraternity's hazing policy.

[ZetaPhi708.20]

In one of the pictures, I can see Lambda Chi letters being worn.

I wonder what percentage of alumni are actually helping this "fraternity".

I did follow them on Twitter when they were an active chapter of Lambda Chi Alpha, for the record.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Kevin

A nonsmoking pledgeship or nonsmoking pledge period would not be hazing per my fraternity's hazing policy.

Not really sure for mine and I'm looking at the National Pledge Standards, need to ask around...

[Tom Earp]

I an sad to say they are/were LXA.

If they think this will help them they are wrong!

Any college student who follows them will gain nothing ever, they will lose. This will haunt them forever.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Kevin

A nonsmoking pledgeship or nonsmoking pledge period would not be hazing per my fraternity's hazing policy.

That's f'd up. The next thing is a no carbohydrates or no caffeine pledgeship.

[WhiteRose1912]

Originally Posted by 33girl

That's f'd up. The next thing is a no carbohydrates or no caffeine pledgeship.

This is what I imagine hell to be like.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

That's f'd up. The next thing is a no carbohydrates or no caffeine pledgeship.

I suppose why not? Just so long as we're not circling the fat...

Our Oklahoma State chapter has an alcohol free pledgeship which they were lauded for in our national magazine. Here is another fine example of how YMMV when you are discussing what constitutes hazing.

[WhiteRose1912]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I suppose why not? Just so long as we're not circling the fat...

Our Oklahoma State chapter has an alcohol free pledgeship which they were lauded for in our national magazine. Here is another fine example of how YMMV when you are discussing what constitutes hazing.

I think my opinion is colored by the fact that I pledged at the tail end of 21. Suggesting an alcohol-free pledgeship would be fine, or "requiring" it during initiation week--a short amount of time where solemnity is being observed. Even forbidding drinking to excess seems reasonable. But telling people of age that they can't have a glass of wine with their dinner for an entire pledge period seems like a ridiculous restriction.

If they're underage, that's a different kettle of fish.