Joining a Different NPC?

[Katmandu]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

Sadly, carnation, I am not floored. Too many experiences with special snowflakes (both adults AND young women) who blithely act w/o regard to rules. They're Special, you know.

IMO the ridiculously short, truncated four to six week new member programs (w/ the exception of Chi Omega, to my knowledge) are one of the factors. Have you sat in on any of those new member meetings, especially in the mega-sized new member classes? It's very illuminating.

Let these new members have a good 18 weeks to learn about the sorority, membership, finances, etc. And make their grades (oh, yeah, there's that). That's plenty of time to make a decision about initiating FOR LIFE MEMBERSHIP.

Still don't see any evidence-based rationale (or data) for shortening the new member period.

SO MUCH THIS! I hate the shortened NM period. As a former CAB member, I know that the new members did not really learn the history, did not really assimilate/learn the values, creed, songs and philanthropy background---did not know all or even most of the actives, nor did the actives know them when they were initiated. I do not understand the value of the extremely truncated pledging/new member period. I don't think it helps to produce dedicated and committed new members. At the time we were having first degree ceremony in my chapter, today's chapters are preparing to initiate. Hats off to Chi Omega for standing firm. If they can do it, why can't other groups?

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by Katmandu

SO MUCH THIS! I hate the shortened NM period. As a former CAB member, I know that the new members did not really learn the history, did not really assimilate/learn the values, creed, songs and philanthropy background---did not know all or even most of the actives, nor did the actives know them when they were initiated. I do not understand the value of the extremely truncated pledging/new member period. I don't think it helps to produce dedicated and committed new members. At the time we were having first degree ceremony in my chapter, today's chapters are preparing to initiate. Hats off to Chi Omega for standing firm. If they can do it, why can't other groups?

I completely agree with AZTheta and Katmandu. Unfortunately, I think a lot of universities were pressuring for this, too. I hate the fast initiation. I think it has harmed GLOs tremendously. It has has a huge impact on the bonds of sisterhood that we hold dear.

I am thankful that we are not moving to the policy of SAE, which has imposed initiation within what... 3-5 DAYS of accepting a bid?