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09-09-2015, 07:47 PM
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Except that, G&Q, the chapter # may reflect something other than what was reported at bid matching. Surely you can see that?  And I've known chapters to report incorrect #s. Yes, it really does happen.
In deleting all your comments, this last few pages of this thread look really bizarre now. So I suppose we all need to delete? Otherwise it's like hearing only one side of a conversation.
I still didn't get an answer!!! I am thinking that the official #s should be what's reported via bid matching.
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09-09-2015, 07:53 PM
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09-09-2015, 08:25 PM
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Texas State University
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09-09-2015, 08:47 PM
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Beat me to it! Source - recruitment adviser.
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09-09-2015, 10:23 PM
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Not exact but DPhiE welcomed more than 200 new founders at UGA tonight!
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09-09-2015, 11:24 PM
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That is awesome for DPhiE!
Also, an update for University of Texas. Even though quota was lower, chapter total has been adjusted up to 255.
University of North Texas Quota was 40 Kappa Delta 42.
Can't remember if I have already posted or not but chapter total at Texas A&M was adjusted to 284.
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09-10-2015, 10:42 AM
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I had no idea so many people resented this thread. Maybe the best thing is to have it locked and permanently discontinued. I thought by the number of views and comments that it was enjoyed. I never considered data to be un-Panhellenic. Maybe because I'm a numbers person.
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09-10-2015, 10:43 AM
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Keep it up! This is a much loved thread!
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09-10-2015, 10:50 AM
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I enjoy this thread. It's got a lot of great information. In fact, I looked something up last night. I like numbers, and don't feel it's un-Panhellenic to talk about numbers. It's not like we're discussing tiers.
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09-10-2015, 12:03 PM
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I don't think that reporting recruitment results from bid matching is "unpanhellenic" (if that's even a word). It's DATA. Pure and simple. Until very recently this thread has been a non-drama source of reliable information. IP, please consider that as an endorsement of the work you've done.
What's unpanhellenic IN MY OPINION is the bickering and sniping and tweaking of numbers to make a chapter's results appear as other than they were at bid matching. AND what's also unpanhellenic is the conversation I heard last night full of misinformation about recruitment results and how well some chapters performed vs. other chapters. You know I opened my mouth right up and shut THAT down. When one woman said "well, cross-cutting" I didn't even let her finish her sentence. Then she tried the "guaranteed a bid" and at that point I just wanted to drink hemlock.
For the love of Mike, read the damned Green Book. Read the RFM manual. Drag yourself out of 1965 and into 2015. Or else shut the hell up.
And don't read this thread if it doesn't match your values - you're not being held hostage, you know?
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09-10-2015, 01:30 PM
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I don't think that reporting recruitment results from bid matching is "unpanhellenic" (if that's even a word). It's DATA. Pure and simple. Until very recently this thread has been a non-drama source of reliable information. IP, please consider that as an endorsement of the work you've done.
What's unpanhellenic IN MY OPINION is the bickering and sniping and tweaking of numbers to make a chapter's results appear as other than they were at bid matching.
And don't read this thread if it doesn't match your values - you're not being held hostage, you know?
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This is what I was trying to get at. It's not reporting numbers that I see as an issue, but the weird fighting over who counts in the new pledge class and the counting of heads in instagram pictures as some sort of official source.
Many posters here have good information, let's stick with that.
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09-10-2015, 12:28 PM
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This thread has helped me a lot over last few years as I have had my 3 youngest sisters go off to college and recruitment in completely different parts of the country than I did.
I find it fascinating to see trends at different colleges and how many PNM's are going through recruitment. I really appreciate the work that people have put into this thread and hope it continues. Even if the numbers are not exactly accurate- 100% of the time, it is still helpful information.
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09-10-2015, 12:28 PM
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Wow! I must have missed something. Irish Pipes, I love this thread. I see it as a show of strength for the whole Panhellenic system and how much we are growing. This thread and Colonies and Expansions are really the only threads I read on a regular basis. Keep up the good work.
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09-10-2015, 12:35 PM
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I'm not sure where the issue came up, but I love this thread. I enjoy seeing the different numbers from all over the country.
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09-10-2015, 12:37 PM
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Ditto x three. Please continue this thread. Even though I am active in our local alum group and I have been a chapter adviser for many years, I really feel a bit out of touch with what is going on nationally with Greek life. This thread keeps me in touch with what is happening in the country.
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