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Old 03-21-2015, 08:04 AM
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These kids have known how to access porn and some of the sickest things you could imagine on a computer since they were old enough to toddle. They have zero filter as far as whether they should share a thought in public. Heavens, of COURSE they should, because it is their thought and everything that emits from them is a glitter rainbow. Fraternities didn't do that. They come to school with this attitude.
I don't necessarily disagree. I'm not saying fraternities created the problem, though I do acknowledge that some people are saying that. What I am saying is that the task for fraternities is to be seen as part of a solution.

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Are you trying to be obtuse? Memos reminding us about programs we already have in place. Not just memos. Programs already in place.
LOL, of course I'm not trying to be obtuse. I knew exactly what you meant. I'm just not impressed by it. Memos telling people to follow the policies in place are the corporate equivalent of "now children, we've told you not do that." The guys who are going to follow the policies will do it anyway. The guys who aren't going to will ignore the memos.

Memos telling members to follow policies may be a start, but my point is that if that's the extent of a response, it's an inadequate response.

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And the "boys will be boys" concept is no less true than 50 years ago. If you think you have the answer to cure 18-20 year old kids of ever saying stupid things, we'd love to hear it.
The "boys will be boys" concept is an excuse. Of course, people of any age will say stupid things, and I know as well as anyone how the brain and judgment of a 19-year-old boy isn't fully developed.

But you've said yourself that the vast majority of chapters aren't doing these stupid things. So apparently lots of boys won't be boys. Trotting out that excuse does nothing except to appear to tut-tut behavior that is going way beyond just "saying stupid things."

I agree that a Chicken Little response is an over-reaction. But the other extreme is an ostrich with his head in the sand, saying there's no real problem. There is a problem, a cultural problem, and it's in the best interests of fraternities to be seen to be trying to change the culture. We claim to be about creating leaders, so let's let the public see us doing that.
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