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Old 03-09-2015, 01:59 PM
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No, I don't believe that only the 20 bus riders knew the chant. I first heard the chant as an undergraduate in the early 80s. It was prevalent then; it's not prevalent now. Attitudes take time to change.

Would they have sung the song in public? I don't think so; I think they knew it was wrong. And, if given the opportunity to apologize and repent, I think they would. I think a teaching moment was lost because in today's environment anything less than the "death penalty" in cases like this is criticized.

There is no reason to believe that the SAEs at OU are particularly different from many other students at OU. The university administration may feel better about itself today for crushing a 100+ year old chapter, but I fear it will only drive the problem further underground and delay real progress.
Now I think you are cherry-picking. And I'm not buying your "no different than many other OU students" which you've brought up twice now. Does that make it right, or somehow lessen the nature of the act? I'm pretty sure it does not. And we're not talking about the OU student body, so unless you have data to support your claim, let's not go there.

Wrong is wrong: where is the teaching moment in what happened on that bus? The teaching moment happened when those "men" were children. And apparently it failed.

When you shatter the glass, saying "sorry" doesn't put the glass back together again. You sweep up the glass shards and you throw them in the trash.
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