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[DrPhil]

No. Almost everyday, I have white people in professional and personal interactions call themselves and other whites certain words and phrases. They think that I will find it funny because I am Black. I don't laugh and I tell them not to do that around me.

But, based on the "don't do it in the public domain" logic, I should not only laugh but adopt those words and phrases in my repertoire. That'll teach them...right? It's fun to adopt certain words and phrases just for shits and giggles...right?

Nah, the truth is, humans are smart enough to handle things in the public domain that are still not to be adopted. The humans who are not smart enough to grasp that have other things to tackle instead of fighting to be able to use certain words and phrases.

But, keep telling people, and especially white people, that they can use certain words just because they hear it frequently. Keep telling people, especially white people, that it is the fault of the people who put these words in the public domain. I have seen people, including white people, get their asses whooped for stepping over boundaries and trying to reenact rap songs, rap videos, and stereotypes with people of another race and ethnicity. I don't condone the ass whoopings but I definitely understood and found it extremely deserved.

Cool....

[PiKA2001]

Dr Phil, I think you are missing the point. No one is saying that using the word is ok, but when you have non black kids being raised on the word and not necessarily knowing or understanding the past of that word, instances like this will arise. I'm also curious to know what words and phrases white people refer to other white people as in your presence.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Dr Phil, I think you are missing the point. No one is saying that using the word is ok

I am not missing the point. If you know that non-Blacks using the word isn't okay, the rest is moot.

Don't preach to Black people about using the word. Preach to non-Black people about using the word. School the confused white people.

[Sen's Revenge]

Y'all want to say slurs soooooooooo bad! LOL. Wack.

[DGTess]

Not only the use of a racial term, even quoted, but the vulgar concept ... (might be PART of why so little progress is being made against stereotypes)

Why do women want to demean themselves so?

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge

Y'all want to say slurs soooooooooo bad! LOL. Wack.

It is wack. I want to know who these white people are who think it's OK to use it because "they hear it in the media." They must be the kids of the white people are who are using it inappropriately and in a racist way. Because I have to tell you that if I ever hear my child use it in any context, I will knock her into next week.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

It is wack. I want to know who these white people are who think it's OK to use it because "they hear it in the media." They must be the kids of the white people are who are using it inappropriately and in a racist way. Because I have to tell you that if I ever hear my child use it in any context, I will knock her into next week.

Indeed. Anything else is just deflection.

[DrPhil]

^^ From a website for angry white people

[Low D Flat]

If the language is offensive, maybe don't put it out there so flippantly in public.

I'm pretty sure Dr Phil, Senusret, etc. haven't been using it in public. So I'm not sure why other people doing so is being imputed to them. The people using it and the people saying it's inappropriate aren't the same people.

[DrPhil]

Sometimes it is the same people. I will use the word in certain environments if I choose. Confused, deflecting white people are no deterrent.

I certainly will never do what some white people do around me which is use words like "honky" and "cracker" to attempt to amuse or relate to the Black person. I have no interest in amusing or relating to white people in that manner.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I am not missing the point. If you know that non-Blacks using the word isn't okay, the rest is moot.

Don't preach to Black people about using the word. Preach to non-Black people about using the word. School the confused white people.

I don't think this girl was a "confused white person". I really think it's a generational thing. The word brings different connotations to a 17yr old and 55yr old. I actually have met true racists in my time, and they are pretty discrete about their viewpoints. Her posting her cake on IG leads me to believe that this girl really didn't think that cake was offensive, which doesn't surprise me much because of her age. She grew up with the N word being all over the place due to hip hop culture, not from it being all over the place due to racism (as other people have lived through).

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I don't think this girl was a "confused white person". I really think it's a generational thing. The word brings different connotations to a 17yr old and 55yr old. I actually have met true racists in my time, and they are pretty discrete about their viewpoints. Her posting her cake on IG leads me to believe that this girl really didn't think that cake was offensive, which doesn't surprise me much because of her age. She grew up with the N word being all over the place due to hip hop culture, not from it being all over the place due to racism (as other people have lived through).

She is either confused, a dumbass, or both.

This is beginning to remind me of that thread about racially insensitive cartoons.

[Low D Flat]

I think you can make an innocent-confusion argument if the person is from another country and speaks English as a second language.

Someone raised in America? No. No, you can't.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I don't think this girl was a "confused white person". I really think it's a generational thing. The word brings different connotations to a 17yr old and 55yr old. I actually have met true racists in my time, and they are pretty discrete about their viewpoints. Her posting her cake on IG leads me to believe that this girl really didn't think that cake was offensive, which doesn't surprise me much because of her age. She grew up with the N word being all over the place due to hip hop culture, not from it being all over the place due to racism (as other people have lived through).

Even if it didn't have the N word, she's a dumbass for posting it. A cake that says suck a dick? What the hell? The fact that it includes racist language just makes it exponentially worse.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge

No. People from marginalized groups have always been able to use language like this in their own art and within their own communities.

If a white person has a problem with what people of color say to each other in our own circles, they really ought to question why they want to use a racial slur so badly in the first place.

Isn't your argument that black people want to use it so badly? I haven't said one thing advocating anyone's use of that word, but you are defending its use. I guess I am just a confused white person, as DrPhil so kindly put it.