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Old 12-12-2014, 06:42 PM
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Do you not see how this viewpoint doesn't challenge better handling of claims but, instead, encourages what is already happening in the dismissal of claims that do not automatically fit the "formula of rape"?
Been trying to figure out what you are grasping at Dr. Phil.

I think you are trying to say that by not agreeing with a more expansive definition of rape that I am being dismissive of some claims? Is that it?
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:01 PM
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I think you are trying to say that by not agreeing with a more expansive definition of rape that I am being dismissive of some claims? Is that it?
Are you pretending to have struggled to grasp this? How unfortunate.


Swarthmore update:

http://articles.philly.com/2014-12-04/news/56689201_1_new-information-assault-honors-student

I am not opposed to his filing a lawsuit if he maintains he was wrongfully accused and wrongfully punished by the school. As I said many threads ago, schools sometimes expel students to save their reputations even if an official investigation would yield inconclusive or find false allegations. This sometimes even happens when the accuser recants. Unfortunately, many of the accused in the bolded instance are unable to sue the school. I know one man in particular to whom this applies.

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Old 12-12-2014, 08:11 PM
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Are you pretending to have struggled to grasp this? How unfortunate.
Continuing with the passive aggressive posting I see. THAT'S unfortunate.
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:13 PM
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Are you pretending to have struggled to grasp this? How unfortunate.


Swarthmore update:

http://articles.philly.com/2014-12-04/news/56689201_1_new-information-assault-honors-student

I am not opposed to his filing a lawsuit if he maintains he was wrongfully accused and wrongfully punished by the school. As I said many threads ago, schools sometimes expel students to save their reputations even if an official investigation would yield inconclusive or find false allegations. This sometimes even happens when the accuser recants. Unfortunately, many of the accused in the bolded instance are unable to sue the school. I know one man in particular to whom this applies.
Is that suppose to be proof that this is the same student in the example I gave from the Phillymag story? It's clearly not the same case.
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:22 PM
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Are you pretending to have struggled to grasp this? How unfortunate.


Swarthmore update:

http://articles.philly.com/2014-12-04/news/56689201_1_new-information-assault-honors-student

I am not opposed to his filing a lawsuit if he maintains he was wrongfully accused and wrongfully punished by the school. As I said many threads ago, schools sometimes expel students to save their reputations even if an official investigation would yield inconclusive or find false allegations. This sometimes even happens when the accuser recants. Unfortunately, many of the accused in the bolded instance are unable to sue the school. I know one man in particular to whom this applies.
Is that suppose to be the same case that we were discussing earlier, the one that I posted as a "thought experiment"?
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:26 PM
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Is that suppose to be the same case that we were discussing earlier, the one that I posted as a "thought experiment"?
Why did you edit your post where you asserted it is clearly not the same case as the one you posted? Are you now uncertain?
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:27 PM
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Why did you edit your post where you asserted it is clearly not the same case as the one you posted? Are you now uncertain?
I didn't. It's still there. I made another post. Because you didn't answer the first one.

Do you think it's the same case?
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:46 PM
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Do you think it's the same case?
Okay, I will give you that it is not the same case if, as the first news story reports, both the accuser and the accused graduated spring 2013. Got it. My apologies.

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This is not an update of the investigation (if one even exists) but here is an interesting article that may have already been discussed in one of these threads:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/07...orge-wi/199937

Lisa Sendrow has actually been a very active voice with quite a bit of stuff on the Internet.

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Old 12-12-2014, 08:57 PM
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Okay, I will give you that it is not the same case if, as the first news story reports, both the accuser and the accused graduated spring 2013. Got it. My apologies.

Appreciate that. I have a link to the successful lawsuit that was filed by the Swarthmore student if you are interested.
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Old 12-12-2014, 09:08 PM
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Are you pretending to have struggled to grasp this? How unfortunate.


Swarthmore update:

http://articles.philly.com/2014-12-04/news/56689201_1_new-information-assault-honors-student

I am not opposed to his filing a lawsuit if he maintains he was wrongfully accused and wrongfully punished by the school. As I said many threads ago, schools sometimes expel students to save their reputations even if an official investigation would yield inconclusive or find false allegations. This sometimes even happens when the accuser recants. Unfortunately, many of the accused in the bolded instance are unable to sue the school. I know one man in particular to whom this applies.
When you say "bolded instance" are you referring to the link you provided or something else that I'm missing?
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