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12-12-2014, 01:57 PM
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Anyway, back to the topic at hand...the language in Title IX puts reporting responsibility on anyone who a student could reasonably perceive to be representing the school, and there seems to be a growing consensus that such language includes a much larger number of faculty/staff members than had previously been trained on this stuff. I found this pretty surprising, because that means that, at some schools, students could report stuff to their academic adviser or professors or RA's, for example, and it wouldn't have gone anywhere. I'm glad that schools are working to remedy that, because 1) it means we'll get a better idea of the true stats, and from there, possibly be better able to address root causes, and 2) it means that victims who are reporting stuff are going to get the appropriate support at the U, rather than some untrained faculty or staff member having no idea what to do.
This aspect, at least, seems very uncontroversial. I don't see how it could possibly be a bad thing to make sure students get the proper support, and the fact that processes were this sloppy in the past underscores, IMO, the need for all these investigations and the attention to this issue.
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12-12-2014, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Anyway, back to the topic at hand...the language in Title IX puts reporting responsibility on anyone who a student could reasonably perceive to be representing the school, and there seems to be a growing consensus that such language includes a much larger number of faculty/staff members than had previously been trained on this stuff. I found this pretty surprising, because that means that, at some schools, students could report stuff to their academic adviser or professors or RA's, for example, and it wouldn't have gone anywhere. I'm glad that schools are working to remedy that, because 1) it means we'll get a better idea of the true stats, and from there, possibly be better able to address root causes, and 2) it means that victims who are reporting stuff are going to get the appropriate support at the U, rather than some untrained faculty or staff member having no idea what to do.
[b]This aspect, at least, seems very uncontroversial. I don't see how it could possibly be a bad thing to make sure students get the proper support, and the fact that processes were this sloppy in the past underscores, IMO, the need for all these investigations and the attention to this issue.
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for anyone who is interested:
http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/lis...cs/shguide.pdf
http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/lis...4-title-ix.pdf
http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/lis...gue-201104.pdf
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12-12-2014, 03:25 PM
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12-12-2014, 03:36 PM
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Oh crap, not Princeton Mom again. Attention whore.
While we're at it, for most violent offenses and property offenses, the offender-victim relationship is that of family, friend, or acquaintance.
So, to save some much needed resources, let's remove all of these offenses from the books so they can no longer be punishable under the law.
Unless you've been victimized by a complete stranger, there is nothing society and the criminal justice system can and will do to help. I hope it was all a learning experience. Choose better company next time because, after all, we are the company we keep.
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12-12-2014, 03:48 PM
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If so, I finally have her answer to what she would call it when a man has sex with a woman who has said no: It's just a "learning experience."
If it's not her, perhaps she'll answer. I won't hold my breath, though.
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12-12-2014, 03:56 PM
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If so, I finally have her answer to what she would call it when a man has sex with a woman who has said no: It's just a "learning experience."
If it's not her, perhaps she'll answer. I won't hold my breath, though.
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Oh, I thought it was a joke. Nope, sorry to disappoint your fevered imaginations, not me. None of my kids went to Princeton, nor did I (I assume she or one of her kids did). And I've never been on CNN. Rats!
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12-12-2014, 03:59 PM
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Oh, I thought it was a joke. Nope, sorry to disappoint your fevered imaginations, not me. None of my kids went to Princeton, nor did I (I assume she or one of her kids did). And I've never been on CNN. Rats! 
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lol - still no answer
It's okay, honorgal. I'm not surprised you won't answer the question.
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12-12-2014, 04:03 PM
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lol - still no answer
It's okay, honorgal. I'm not surprised you won't answer the question.
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I guess I misunderstood the question. I thought it was "Honorgal, is that you."
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