Yale's Comprehensive Sexual Misconduct Guide

[robinseggblue]

Originally Posted by squirrely girl

Translated: All those bitches be lyin' so it's not real.

Just to be clear, having followed your posting on this topic in more than one thread now, I find your level of rape apology and victim blaming particularly loathsome and profoundly obnoxious. I cringe for whatever GLO took you on as a member and genuinely hope your level of influence on the lives of young people is grossly limited. Frankly, I'd respect you far more if you just came out and stated you just don't believe women when they say they've been raped and leave it at that. Rather, you hide behind your words and distraction in related issues and I find it both pathetic as well as morally and intellectually dishonest.

ITA, glad someone said it.

[1964Alum]

Originally Posted by robinseggblue

ITA, glad someone said it.

Honorgal is NOT a member of a GLO!

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by 1964Alum

Honorgal is NOT a member of a GLO!

And you know this how?

And more importantly, why would you care one way or another? Bizarre.

[squirrely girl]

Originally Posted by robinseggblue

ITA, glad someone said it.

Honestly, I'm surprised I'm the first. GC is rocking some kid gloves lately...

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by squirrely girl

Honestly, I'm surprised I'm the first. GC is rocking some kid gloves lately...

So this is a group that is usually very intolerant of dissenting opinion?

I guess I'm not surprised.

[DrPhil]

GCers typically love a good debate. It can get heated. There are some dissenting opinions that can rub people the wrong way and especially with a particular tone. Every GCer gets told to fuck off if people tire of our message and/or our tone. That includes being placed on "ignore". Honorgal is not exceptional in this and, again, will not be able to martyrize herself.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

GCers typically love a good debate. It can get heated. There are some dissenting opinions that can rub people the wrong way and especially with a particular tone. Every GCer gets told to fuck off if people tire of our message and/or our tone. That includes being placed on "ignore". Honorgal is not exceptional in this and, again, will not be able to martyrize herself.

Martry: a person who pretends to suffer or who exaggerates suffering in order to get praise or sympathy

I'm definitely not suffering. Fascinated would be a better description.

Placing someone on ignore always conjures up a tantruming child sticking their fingers in their ears and humming "lalalalalalalalala". But, whatever floats your boat.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by honorgal

Martry: a person who pretends to suffer or who exaggerates suffering in order to get praise or sympathy

I'm definitely not suffering. Fascinated would be a better description.

About time you properly applied a concept. You are pretending to be the lone voice or lone fighter for your perspective. That is why you attempted to dismiss the majority of people in this thread as "group think".

It is one thing to think people are clueless and shortsighted regarding a topic, I think that quite often in GC discussions. But you come across as though you think you have some inside knowledge of campus dynamics that is not shared with the "group thinkers".

You are certainly not the only GCer who either knows people who work in a college/university or works at a college/university. You are also not the only GCer who knows alleged victims, alleged perpetrators, people who lied, people who were falsely accused, alleged victims who were telling the truth, etc. Therefore, many of us are well aware of these dynamics and still manage to have varying perspectives.

Originally Posted by honorgal

Placing someone on ignore always conjures up a tantruming child sticking their fingers in their ears and humming "lalalalalalalalala". But, whatever floats their boat.

FYP.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

About time you properly applied a concept. You are pretending to be the lone voice or lone fighter for your perspective. That is why you attempted to dismiss the majority of people in this thread as "group think".

Would be hard to pretend when it's not something I think. Unless you can show me where I have said I'm the lone voice, then you are simply making up what YOU think I'm thinking. If you are not sure, you can just ask.

is one thing to think people are clueless and shortsighted regarding a topic, I think that quite often in GC discussions.

I'd call this projection.

But you come across as though you think you have some inside knowledge of campus dynamics that is not shared with the "group thinkers".

You are certainly not the only GCer who either knows people who work in a college/university or works at a college/university. You are also not the only GCer who knows alleged victims, alleged perpetrators, people who lied, people who were falsely accused, alleged victims who were telling the truth, etc. Therefore, many of us are well aware of these dynamics and still manage to have varying perspectives.

Again, maybe this is projection. Someone already made this same observation and I replied that I don't claim to be an expert or insider knowledge. I have my own observations and experiences, we all do, and I have read widely from a variety of factual sources on this topic. That's what forms my opinions. No need to make it into something its not.

FYP.

LOL...of all the numerous times you've tried to put words in my mouth, this one takes the cake.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You are certainly not the only GCer who either knows people who work in a college/university or works at a college/university. You are also not the only GCer who knows alleged victims, alleged perpetrators, people who lied, people who were falsely accused, alleged victims who were telling the truth, etc. Therefore, many of us are well aware of these dynamics and still manage to have varying perspectives.

No, you see, when HG is/knows someone who falls into one of these groups, it makes her an expert, while when anyone else is/knows someone who falls into one of these groups, it means we are unable to escape the groupthink. OBV.