Phi Kappa Psi at U of Virginia Voluntarily Suspends Activities

[SOM]

Updated apology digs bigger hole for Rolling Stone http://wpo.st/RUIx

[SOM]

UVA Rape Victim’s Roommate Pens Letter Supporting Her Story http://nym.ag/1schd5g via @intelligencer

[squirrely girl]

In the meantime, the Washington Post also quietly removed a key claim from their own scathing report on the UVA story.

http://jezebel.com/the-uva-mess-is-now-a-full-fledged-shitstorm-1668191002

[thetalady]

Phi Kappa Psi is going to have a whole new house compliments of RS by the time this crapfest is over. I worry for "Jackie's" ability to handle all of these accusations crashing down on her now. Hope she is being carefully monitored.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by SOM

Greek leaders go on the offensive at UVA By Maggie Severns
12/7/14 8:20 PM EST
National fraternity and sorority leaders are calling on the University of Virginia to reinstate its Greek system, which the university suspended after an article in Rolling Stone that is now in dispute chronicled an alleged gang rape at a campus fraternity.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/1...#ixzz3LGzvbR9H

Has anyone been able to find the actual statement put out by IFC and NPC? If so, please post a link. Would really like to read it first hand, rather than read Politico's reporting on it.

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by honorgal

Has anyone been able to find the actual statement put out by IFC and NPC? If so, please post a link. Would really like to read it first hand, rather than read Politico's reporting on it.

http://www.nicindy.org/blog1/joint-s...arolling-stone

This is from the National Interfraternity Council website.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by squirrely girl

In the meantime, the Washington Post also quietly removed a key claim from their own scathing report on the UVA story.

http://jezebel.com/the-uva-mess-is-now-a-full-fledged-shitstorm-1668191002

This is how it currently reads so I would disagree with Jezebels claim that they removed anything "key":

"Reached by phone, that man, a U-Va. graduate, said Friday that he worked at the Aquatic and Fitness Center and was familiar with Jackie’s name. But he added that he never met Jackie in person and never took her out on a date. He also said he was not a member of Phi Kappa Psi."

ETA, I do find the wording "in person" a little odd. Don't you usually just say "I've never met xyz?" Maybe they've had some kind of internet interaction? Just struck me as strange wording in this context.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

http://www.nicindy.org/blog1/joint-s...arolling-stone

This is from the National Interfraternity Council website.

Thank you very much.

I'm heartened to see some of the "key" grown ups in this issue are pushing back against the hysteria.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by honorgal

ETA, I do find the wording "in person" a little odd. Don't you usually just say "I've never met xyz?" Maybe they've had some kind of internet interaction? Just struck me as strange wording in this context.

I say that all the time about people I've been interacting with on GC for a decade and a half, but have never physically been in the same room with. He may have been FB friends with her or heard her name through other friends.

[robinseggblue]

Originally Posted by honorgal

This is how it currently reads so I would disagree with Jezebels claim that they removed anything "key":

"Reached by phone, that man, a U-Va. graduate, said Friday that he worked at the Aquatic and Fitness Center and was familiar with Jackie’s name. But he added that he never met Jackie in person and never took her out on a date. He also said he was not a member of Phi Kappa Psi."

Seems like the Washington Post edited that back in. Might have been after or right before or right as the blog post was being published. If the WP doesn't indicate edits, then there's no way to tell but there's a photo on the blog post and it was left out when I read the WP article.

Originally Posted by honorgal

ETA, I do find the wording "in person" a little odd. Don't you usually just say "I've never met xyz?" Maybe they've had some kind of internet interaction? Just struck me as strange wording in this context.

I don't find it odd. I hear it used when people want to say they know of a person, but haven't met in person (since people can "meet" over the internet, e.g. Facebook or forums like 33girl mentioned).

I think to my age group Facebook friends and Facebook chatting would constitute "meeting" but not meeting in person.

[PinkSkyAtNight]

OK, somewhat of a left turn, but I think that some of the tweets and retweets from Greek Leadership accounts are getting somewhat unprofessional. @FSPAC is tweeting articles from the National Review that put in doubt all rape statistics. I wasn't aware that @FSPAC had a particular political lean, but if they do and they are going to use this as a podium to promote it, I will sure as shit be letting my national office & NPC know how I feel about them doing so. Sabrina Rubin Ederly really, really messed this whole conversation up, but jumping on the "many women are liars" bangwagon is sickening, and I can't believe NPC is supporting this type of chorus. Gross, gross, gross.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by PinkSkyAtNight

OK, somewhat of a left turn, but I think that some of the tweets and retweets from Greek Leadership accounts are getting somewhat unprofessional. @FSPAC is tweeting articles from the National Review that put in doubt all rape statistics. I wasn't aware that @FSPAC had a particular political lean, but if they do and they are going to use this as a podium to promote it, I will sure as shit be letting my national office & NPC know how I feel about them doing so. Sabrina Rubin Ederly really, really messed this whole conversation up, but jumping on the "many women are liars" bangwagon is sickening, and I can't believe NPC is supporting this type of chorus. Gross, gross, gross.

How does questioning the "1 in 5" statistic equate to jumping on the "many women are liars" bandwagon?

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by robinseggblue

Seems like the Washington Post edited that back in. Might have been after or right before or right as the blog post was being published. If the WP doesn't indicate edits, then there's no way to tell but there's a photo on the blog post and it was left out when I read the WP article.



I don't find it odd. I hear it used when people want to say they know of a person, but haven't met in person (since people can "meet" over the internet, e.g. Facebook or forums like 33girl mentioned).

I think to my age group Facebook friends and Facebook chatting would constitute "meeting" but not meeting in person.

Yes I agree with that and with 33girl. Which begs the obvious follow up question of has he ever "met her" on line.

And yes, it's really unacceptable for WaPo to keep editing their story online and make no mention of having done so.

[SOM]

Trolls are outing Jackie. That's Rolling Stone's fault too. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...all_tab_tw_top via @doublexmag

[SOM]

FratPAC Pushes University Of Virginia To End Punishment Of Greek Life http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...hp_ref=college