Phi Kappa Psi at U of Virginia Voluntarily Suspends Activities

[DrPhil]

This is an unfortunate discussion.

I hope people realize that men also precipitate (which isn't victim blaming) their own victimization as well as precipitating many circumstances in which they are accused of crimes. Yet and still, people tend not to preach to men about the behaviors that increase the likelihood of such incidents.

But people love to preach to women. It is absolutely sickening.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This is an unfortunate discussion.

I hope people realize that men also precipitate (which isn't victim blaming) their own victimization as well as precipitating many circumstances in which they are accused of crimes. Yet and still, people tend not to preach to men about the behaviors that increase the likelihood of such incidents.

But people love to preach to women. It is absolutely sickening.

I don't see it as gender based. Of course men precipitate their own victimization, in lots of ways. Who doesn't think that?

It IS possible to view a victim (male or female) with empathy while simultaneously recognizing what they could do differently to avoid becoming a victim. How do humans ever learn from their mistakes otherwise if it's out of bounds to mention that?

Personally, I know I "preached" to my sons way more than I ever did my daughter. Their childhood and college years were filled with "please don't eat the daisies" moments where my imagination failed to keep up with the things they could think up that could put their lives in danger.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by honorgal

Who doesn't think that?

Millions of people around the world. The average man college student doesn't get a lecture about safe behaviors to reduce the likelihood of violent victimization. The average woman college student gets tons of lectures.

All discussions of sexual assault and rape are gender based. That is highlighted in many posts in this thread.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Millions of people around the world. The average man college student doesn't get a lecture about safe behaviors to reduce the likelihood of violent victimization. The average woman college student gets tons of lectures.

All discussions of sexual assault and rape are gender based. That is highlighted in many posts in this thread.

Well, duh. You've jumpd the shark if you think any of what's being discussed here is applicable to an Afghanistan or a Rwanda.

When you say men don't get lectures about violent victimization risk reduction, can you be specific on what you mean by violent victimization?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by honorgal

Well, duh. You've jumpd the shark if you think any of what's being discussed here is applicable to an Afghanistan or a Rwanda.

Are you dumb enough to think that "millions of people around the world" does not include millions of people in the USA?

Get your head out of your ass.

Originally Posted by honorgal

When you say men don't get lectures about violent victimization risk reduction, can you be specific on what you mean by violent victimization?

No, but I can go back to typing about a general topic rather than responding to honorgal.

[honorgal]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Are you dumb enough to think that "millions of people around the world" does not include millions of people in the USA?

Get your head out of your ass.



No, but I can go back to typing about a general topic rather than responding to honorgal.

Good grief.

[DrPhil]

And there are women and men who are silent because being vocal or making gestures of disapproval could result in a much more painful experience.

This is a flashback to rape accusations being dismissed if the woman (or man) alleged victim orgasms.

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Rape culture on campus: The silence of men

Originally Posted by honorgal

Good grief.

Don't pretend you didn't precipitate that.