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Old 10-30-2014, 03:51 PM
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There were two parts to my post. The first was poking fun at a 100+ year rival, which some here recognized and some didn't. The second though is that there is a qualitative difference between the cultures of the two schools as it relates to drinking in particular, which may be of interest to the OP.

At LSU drinking to the point of staggering/passing out, whether at Tigerland or at a tailgate, is looked at as the normal course of business. People freely walk around with beer and liquor bottles. That's LSU's choice, but it does send a message.

In the square and in the grove that doesn't happen with nearly the same frequency, even after adjusting for population size. Of course the kids drink, and many get quite drunk, but getting out of control is the exception rather than the rule. Yes, there are places you can go in Oxford to find that environment, but they are not the focal point of the social scene. My comparison was specifically between Tigerland and the Square.


Particularly in the grove an Ole Miss student becoming uncontrollably drunk is not considered cool, and when you do see that in the grove it is much more likely to be the visiting team's fans. Another tailgating contrast can be seen in the way guests are treated. A visiting fan in the grove is likely to be invited into a tent and treated like family. A visiting fan on the LSU campus will be taunted with chants of "Tiger Bait" and have ice (if they're lucky) thrown at them. Another choice.
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:24 PM
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MU2Driver- although it was very hard for me to tell that this was sarcasm I will admit that you are right on several points. When I moved to Louisiana from Kentucky I was blown away by the casual attitude towards drinking. It does often cause problems with our younger people because it is such and accepted part of the culture. That is not just and LSU thing, it is all over south Louisiana.

As far as your experience tailgating I have read online about people saying they had bad experiences but I have never seen that going on in person. Maybe some of the college age guys get out of hand but I have never seen people being anything but nice. I think the secret is to play along, when you get upset they get worse!!! It is just a very different culture than you will find in other southern states. Lots of people love it, but its not for everyone.
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Old 10-30-2014, 10:01 PM
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There were two parts to my post. The first was poking fun at a 100+ year rival, which some here recognized and some didn't. The second though is that there is a qualitative difference between the cultures of the two schools as it relates to drinking in particular, which may be of interest to the OP.

At LSU drinking to the point of staggering/passing out, whether at Tigerland or at a tailgate, is looked at as the normal course of business. People freely walk around with beer and liquor bottles. That's LSU's choice, but it does send a message.

In the square and in the grove that doesn't happen with nearly the same frequency, even after adjusting for population size. Of course the kids drink, and many get quite drunk, but getting out of control is the exception rather than the rule. Yes, there are places you can go in Oxford to find that environment, but they are not the focal point of the social scene. My comparison was specifically between Tigerland and the Square.


Particularly in the grove an Ole Miss student becoming uncontrollably drunk is not considered cool, and when you do see that in the grove it is much more likely to be the visiting team's fans. Another tailgating contrast can be seen in the way guests are treated. A visiting fan in the grove is likely to be invited into a tent and treated like family. A visiting fan on the LSU campus will be taunted with chants of "Tiger Bait" and have ice (if they're lucky) thrown at them. Another choice.
I don't think Tigerland and the Square are the same at all. I see them as 2 different things. The Strip in Tuscaloosa is more like Tigerland and the Quad in Tuscaloosa is more like the Grove. So you have both on one campus. I went to Alabama and go to a lot of games there. I also have been to games at LSU and have NEVER had ice - or anything else - thrown at me - whilst in my Bama regalia. They've been nothing but gracious to me at any time....invited into their tents to eat and drink. The Grove is an entirely different experience from any on any other college campus in this country. I don't think it's fair to try to equate it with another...nor the Square with any other place. It's just different there. But different isn't defined as worse - or better. It's just different. Sorry if you can't appreciate or understand that. And if some of my cajun relatives offended your delicate sensibilities, so be it. I wouldn't have taken it so personally.
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MU2Driver- although it was very hard for me to tell that this was sarcasm I will admit that you are right on several points. When I moved to Louisiana from Kentucky I was blown away by the casual attitude towards drinking. It does often cause problems with our younger people because it is such and accepted part of the culture. That is not just and LSU thing, it is all over south Louisiana.

As far as your experience tailgating I have read online about people saying they had bad experiences but I have never seen that going on in person. Maybe some of the college age guys get out of hand but I have never seen people being anything but nice. I think the secret is to play along, when you get upset they get worse!!! It is just a very different culture than you will find in other southern states. Lots of people love it, but its not for everyone.
You have to realize that Louisiana was the last state to accept the 21 age for drinking - and we did it to get federal highway tax money. It was 18 for years before that. You are right - it's different there....thank goodness!
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I googled Tigerland and got stories on a bunch of apartment complexes for students that (their words) range from fun to sketchy. Is that what you guys are talking about?
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Old 10-31-2014, 01:57 PM
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Old 10-31-2014, 06:24 PM
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Tigerland is an area close to campus that has several bars that LSU students go to. There are also some older apartment complexes there that where nice in the 70-80's but are in bad shape now and are not very safe. I don't think a lot of college students live there now.
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Old 10-31-2014, 06:27 PM
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You have to realize that Louisiana was the last state to accept the 21 age for drinking - and we did it to get federal highway tax money. It was 18 for years before that. You are right - it's different there....thank goodness!
I was actually living in Louisiana by the time this happened. The first time the difference hit me was one night at a festival put on by our local Catholic school. I was drinking a beer( that I bought in a booth there) and when I saw a police officer I tried to hid it. Everyone that was with me just died laughing at me. It just didn't occur to me that if they were selling it on the school grounds it was obviously okay to drink it in public!!!!
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:55 PM
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For those not familiar with game day at Ole Miss and the Grove, here is a taste:

Tailgating Goes Above and Beyond at the University of Mississippi
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