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Old 10-25-2014, 01:48 AM
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Brilliant! (Well, except Kathy Griffith. Not a fan.)


Were you initiated or born in 1964? I was an active in the late 1970s. During my entire Advisor experience, I was forever be held up as an example of someone who was hazed. I had a pledge notebook - hazing. I wore a pledge ribbon with my pledge pin for the first week - hazing. I answered the chapter telephone - hazing. I served beer & soda at a mixer - hazing.

I'm not trying to call you out on hazing, or on your GLO, but rather, pointing out that the definition of hazing has changed drastically over the years. If a sister doesn't do it, it's considered hazing. At least, by Alpha Delta Pi standards.

Knowing that the current Miss America did something, even in an email to her national, disturbs me. I think she's also a bad example of sorority women.


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I was initiated in 1964. Pledged the fall of '63. I was proud to be a Chi Omega pledge and had no expectation to have all the privileges of an initiated member. Which I was not as a pledge. I was happy to wear my pledge pin; attend weekly pledge meetings; have this period to have private coffee times with each active member; keep a pledge notebook; and learn more about my sorority, her history, and principles. There was nothing remotely belittling or degrading about it. We also had a pledge retreat, gave a party for the actives, and had a formal Pledge Presentation given for us. We worked alongside the actives on elections, homecoming, and the like. We had a long pledge period as we weren't initiated until after our Fall semester grades had come in. And we had to make our grades to be an initiated member. There was a lot of give and take between us and the initiated members. We were all offered a lot of help and support.

Now if the above now constitute "hazing", then I think the definition needs to be refined. I don't remember a single pledge in either my pledge class or any after me thinking that what was expected or required of us to be onerous or demeaning in the least. I don't remember anyone failing to make her grades, either. Nor did we feel "entitled" to be full members upon the acceptance of our bid.

Retention rate in Chi Omega remains very high, so we must be doing something right!
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