Schools that need to open for NPC expansion

[Griffins&Quills]

Next one from the list, LSU has opened

So

Alabama - still open?
LSU
FIU
Belmont
Cal State - San Marcos
Texas Tech
Florida
Northern Arizona
North Georgia
Nevada - Reno

have all opened since this thread was started. Pretty on point predictions.

[kchaptergphib]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I wonder if the issues with NPC and RFM had something to do with groups not submitting packets... Also, competing with a local that allows boys and booze? Not enticing.

^ Those would be EXACTLY my thoughts, too.
Although I may be close geographically, I really know very little about how stuff functions at Whitewater, so I defer to Sassmofi, or others with more local, recent experience.
I would say, though, that the region should have enough alumnae in the area, with both Madison & Milwaukee nearby.
It was always my (again, no personal experience) impression that the university needed a bit more structure/NPC oversight/adherence to unanimous agreements for the system to be more healthy. But, again, just the impression I got.
Looking strictly at their pledge class sizes, I think that puts them about even with UW-Milwaukee and UW-Oshkosh (those three being the schools behind only Marquette and Madison in class sizes).

[clemsongirl]

I would argue that the University of Rhode Island should open for sorority expansion soon if it's not already in the works. Quota last year was 35 but jumped up to 53 this year, and the houses are not large enough to hold that many girls. The year before that quota was 29. A chapter was closed and then a new one opened, so they're back up to the same number of chapters in years past, but it seems as though both interest and the placement rate have gone up. They've had three groups colonize in the past five years now but the numbers are only getting larger.

One issue is housing-groups without permanent housing plans are seen at a large disadvantage to those with permanent housing, and plenty of fraternities are willing to rent their houses to sororities while they are suspended but not sell them outright. I can think of several alumni associations that would be thrilled to have a local chapter in a state with limited Greek Life presence, but not having solid housing would put them behind the eight ball.

[acg233]

I'd created a list on my own last year and about 7-8 of them ended up opening up, so I'm ready to put down my guesses in public so I can point to them later and say, "See! I was right!"
These are all purely on numbers, as I don't have any idea about housing or other situations at these schools. Also, some might need a few years, but if the growth were to continue...

Auburn University ('14 Q=72, '13 Q=60, '12 Q=58, '11 Q=62). Last colonization was Theta in 2009

Jacksonville State ('14 Q=29, '13 Q=28, '12 Q=22, '11 Q=21)

Samford ('14 Q=70?, '13 Q=65?, '12 Q=48?)

Troy ('14 Q=60?, '13 Q=54, '12 Q=39, '11 Q=41)

University of North Alabama ('14 Q=35?, '13 Q=32?, '12 Q=27)

University of South Alabama ('14 Q=39?, '13 Q=35, '12 Q=26?, '11 Q=24)

Arkansas State University ('14 Q=46?, '13 Q=41, '12 Q=43, '11 Q=34) Zeta Tau Alpha colonized in 2012

University of Central Arkansas ('14 Q=58?, '13 Q=50?, '12 Q=25?)

California State University- Fresno ('14 Q=37?, '13 Q=31?, '12 Q=30?, '11 Q=23)

California State University- Fullerton ('14 Q=73?, '13 Q=69, '12 Q=56)

California State University- Long Beach ('14 Q=61?, '13 Q=49, '12 Q=40, '11 Q=36)

UC Davis ('14 Q=50?, '13 Q=34, '12 Q=48, '11 Q=38)

University of San Francisco (No quota, but '14=50-60, '13=37?) Only 2 NPCs, Kappa Alpha Theta colonized in 2011

Stetson University ('14 Q=38?, '13 Q=33?, '12 Q=28?, '11 Q=22)

University of North Florida ('14 Q=73? '13 Q=67?, '12 Q=55?, '11 Q=52)

Georgia Tech ('14 Q=50, '13 Q=45, '12 Q=45, '11 Q=44)

Georgia Southern ('14 Q=72?, '13 Q=59?, '12 Q=62?, '11 Q=60)

Georgia Southwestern State ('14 Q=34, '13 Q=17?)

Georgia State ('14 Q=31, '13 Q=23, '12 Q=21

University of Hawai'i at Manoa ('14 Q=28, '13 Q=20, '12 Q=17)

Ball State University ('14 Q=48?, '13 Q=49?, '12 Q=39, '11 Q=30)

Butler University ('14 Q=52?, '13 Q=53, '12 Q=41)

University of Kansas ('14 Q=65, '13 Q=56, '12 Q=44, '11 Q=44)

Washburn University ('14 Q=30?, '13 Q=23, '12 Q=15, '11 Q=19)

Bellarmine University ('14 Q=26, '13 Q=20) One NPC

Eastern Kentucky ('14 Q=25, '13 Q=22, '12 Q=20, '11 Q=17)

University of Kentucky ('14 Q=90, '13 Q=82, '12 Q=65, '11 Q=58) Phi Mu colonized in 2011

Western Kentucky ('14 Q=51, '13 Q=43, '12 Q=32, '11 Q=39) Alpha Xi Delta colonized in 2012

Louisiana Tech ('14 Q=59, '13 Q=44?)

Nicholls State ('14 Q=48?, '13 Q=44, '12 Q=43, '11 Q=37)

University of Louisiana at Monroe ('14 Q=40, '13 Q=36?, '12 Q=37, '11 Q=26)

Salisbury University ('14 Q=40?, '13 Q=31?)

Towson University ('14 Q=40?, '13 Q=31?)

Western Michigan ('14 Q=31?, '13 Q=20, '12 Q=15)

University of Minnesota- Duluth ('14 Q=55, '13 Q=47+24)

Delta State ('14 Q=30?, '13 Q=31?, '12 Q=21? '11 Q=18)

Missouri University of Science & Tech ('14 Q=41, '13 Q=23, '12 Q=27, '11 Q=27)

University of Central Missouri ('14 Q=31, '13 Q=30, '12 Q=24, '11 Q=22)

Princeton University ('14 Q=55?, '13 Q=49?, '12 Q=15?)

Ohio University: ('14 Q=56?, '13 Q=38, '12 Q=37?)

Northeastern State University ('14 Q=34?, '13 Q=18, '12 Q=12, '11 Q=17)

Linfield College ('14 Q=36?, '13 Q=29, '12 Q=?, '11 Q=25)

University of Pittsburgh ('14 Q=31, '13 Q=26, '12 Q=21?, '11 Q=20)

East Tennessee State University ('14 Q=50?, '13 Q=37?, '12 Q= 26?)

University of Memphis ('14 Q=42?, '13 Q=41?, '12 Q=31?, '11 Q=23)

University of Tennessee ('14 Q=60?, '13 Q=48, '12 Q=52, '11 Q=46)

Lamar University ('14 Q=25?, '13 Q=22?, '12 Q=13?)

Midwestern State ('14 Q=24, '13 Q=23, '12 Q=16, '11 Q=17)

Stephen F. Austin State ('14 Q=48?, '13 Q=45, '12 Q=41, '11 Q=39)

Texas A&M ('14 Q=85?, '13 Q=67?, '12 Q=55, '11 Q=52)

University of Utah ('14 Q=51?, '13 Q=38, '12 Q=31?)

West Virginia University: ('14 Q=50, '13 Q=55, '12 Q=38?, '11 Q=25)

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills

Next one from the list, LSU has opened

So

Alabama - still open?
LSU
FIU
Belmont
Cal State - San Marcos
Texas Tech
Florida
Northern Arizona
North Georgia
Nevada - Reno

have all opened since this thread was started. Pretty on point predictions.

I just found out from my little sister that NAU is open for expansion. Presentations are in the spring I believe. Phi Mu, Alpha Xi Delta and Kappa Delta will be presenting. I'm hoping Phi Mu is chosen as I think it would be awesome to have a Phi Mu chapter in AZ.

[ASUADPi]

I would also argue that U of Arizona needs to open for expansion as the chapters quota for the last couple of years has been over 100 new members.

The problem though with UA is that a chapter MUST have a house, which obviously could be problematic for a chapter to come onto campus. Either way though, 100+ new member classes are insane.

[unarose]

Originally Posted by acg233

University of North Alabama ('14 Q=35?, '13 Q=32?, '12 Q=27)

As far as chapter facilities and housing goes…I'm not entirely sure how the University would go about providing the equivalent to a new group. Each of the four groups on campus now have a floor of a set of residence halls, with 24 beds on each floor for what's usually the exec boards of the groups and any other girls that want to live there. The floors occupied by the sororities also each have a chapter room and storage space for ritual equipment and the like.

The housing spaces themselves would be less of an issue for the University, being that each of the two buildings have a first floor that is not assigned to any particular group and have the same number of bed spaces. The issue I would see is that neither first floor of the building has the equivalent chapter space for a new group. I do believe the University plans to add more residence halls near the current sorority housing, and possibly in a similar style, but that's unlikely to happen in the next few years (they have already started construction on a new residence hall near the main sets due to a requirement for Fall 2015 that all incoming freshmen who don't live within a certain mile radius have to live on campus). I do not believe the groups are large enough that the chapter space itself is in danger of not being able to hold them—even though quotas have gone up a little, chapter total has not fluctuated much at all (that I can tell).

[Griffins&Quills]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

I just found out from my little sister that NAU is open for expansion. Presentations are in the spring I believe. Phi Mu, Alpha Xi Delta and Kappa Delta will be presenting. I'm hoping Phi Mu is chosen as I think it would be awesome to have a Phi Mu chapter in AZ.

Presentations are happening now. Via twitter we just presented a few days ago. Obviously I'm rooting for Alpha Xi

[KDKells]

Missouri University of Science & Tech ('14 Q=41, '13 Q=23, '12 Q=27, '11 Q=27)

I honestly don't see us opening up for expansion in the next three years. Despite growing numbers and smaller spaces (Zeta had to do big sis reveal in the student union), there aren't enough girls to support a whole other chapter. Total is around 101 and only ChiO doesn't have to COB most likely. This school has just a small proportion of girls, so I see it unlikely to get a fourth NPC group soon. Our only NPHC sorority, Delta Sigma Theta, is dormant now that the only member graduated.

Zeta does want a new house which if they get, I assume it will be built on their current property and that will solve their space issue. But otherwise campus is in a weird position with housing.

The university closed down a hall complex and plans to demo and rebuild, and also to build on another plot of land. But this school is bad at getting buildings started being built, so it will be a couple of years at least until we see progress. Res Life was actually encouraging students to go greek so they'd have a real place to stay and alleviate space issues (in the closed complex one of the halls is up and running and another was reopened at the beginning of the year due to lack of room for students. Students were also placed in a hotel and in rooms in the traditional dorm that were originally study rooms)

Since there is no space on campus, there has been a building boom in town and sophomores on up living off campus. There's not much, if anything, to build on anywhere near campus that would be good for a sorority (all three are within two blocks of campus).

[Phigirl04]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

I would also argue that U of Arizona needs to open for expansion as the chapters quota for the last couple of years has been over 100 new members.

The problem though with UA is that a chapter MUST have a house, which obviously could be problematic for a chapter to come onto campus. Either way though, 100+ new member classes are insane.

I so want to see Phi Mu back at UA but I know that housing would be a huge concern as I would hazard to guess we sold the house. A large portion of the alum chapter I was a part of in Phoenix was from there and I know they would love to see their chapter back and would support it in anyway they could.

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills

Presentations are happening now. Via twitter we just presented a few days ago. Obviously I'm rooting for Alpha Xi

Thanks for the information!

My little sister decided not to go through recruitment. She mentioned this because her NAU 100 teacher is a Tri-Delt, who said something to the class about sorority presentations. She thought it was happening in the spring. Maybe that is when colonization is occurring.

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by Phigirl04

I so want to see Phi Mu back at UA but I know that housing would be a huge concern as I would hazard to guess we sold the house. A large portion of the alum chapter I was a part of in Phoenix was from there and I know they would love to see their chapter back and would support it in anyway they could.

I haven't been back to the campus in 4+ years but the last time I was there there where a couple of frat houses that were "available" as the chapters were no longer on campus. I guess a sorority could always "buy" one of the frat houses and fix it up, probably would be cheaper than building one. I'm not even sure where they would build.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

I haven't been back to the campus in 4+ years but the last time I was there there where a couple of frat houses that were "available" as the chapters were no longer on campus. I guess a sorority could always "buy" one of the frat houses and fix it up, probably would be cheaper than building one. I'm not even sure where they would build.

Not going to happen.

There is no available land on campus to build. The fraternities are holding tight on their properties. The last two available lots were sold to Sigma Chi and Sigma Phi Epsilon, both of whom built very nice facilities last year. With no parking for the occupants.

It's about parking lots, and real estate prices.

An idea that's been bandied about is to buy a property on Park, just off campus, and build a high-rise and sell or lease floors to sororities and fraternities. There are at least three high rises off Park and Speedway now since your last visit to Tucson (ugly monstrosities, ruined the West University neighborhood). The problem is location, location, location. Being competitive at UofA means owning something on 1st or 2nd, between Mountain and Campbell (actually, Cherry for the sororities. AXO has struggled and part of the reason is the location of their house - east of Cherry, almost to Campbell. The PNMs don't like walking that far in the August heat, although they sure beat tracks to the fraternity houses that are around AXO).

It would take a massive culture shift to accept alternative housing. In the meantime, the chapters are (seeingly) just fine with those huge NM classes. We shall see what the tipping point is, and when it comes, I'll be on the sofa with my soda and popcorn.

[AZ-AlphaXi]

^^^ is there room on your sofa for me?

[DubaiSis]

As winter approaches here in the heartland, can I have the third spot on that sofa in the desert?