A drama filled, rollercoaster Back to School themed recruitment! - Page 5

DeltaBetaBaby · #1 09-10-2014, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by amanda6035

This makes sense IF the computer is going to recalculate quota to place the maximum number of PNMs possible. I mean.... seems to me that if you have 100 PNMs at a school with 5 chapters then quota would be 20, but if the computer brain - however the heck it works - determines that quota should be 18 and some chapters end up with quota plus, well, what's a chapter do do? Continually rewrite their first bid list alphabetically with a different number of ladies on it? Nah, if you're going to use this method of setting quota then the ranking method makes sense.... because if quota is 20, then the chapter already shows who the top 20 pick is. If quota is reset to 18, then panhellenic already knows who the top 18 is and doesn't have to ask who the 2 in alphabetical list of 20 should be removed since quota has been reset to 18.

But no matter *how* a group ranks PNMs, if they are a PNM's second choice, their ranking has no effect on whether a PNM gets her first choice. None.

(not correcting you, just reiterating in general)

ladybug12 · #2 09-09-2014, 11:02 PM

You can take that to the bank.

wsucalsigmakapp · #3 09-09-2014, 11:02 PM

Speaking as an alum from this school, I am sorry about your experience. But I can promise that with a re-colonization on the horizon, the school and the Greek life director are "dotting the i's and crossing the t's." I am by no means an expert on bid matching but I am under the impression that if you are in the top let's say 52 because that is what quota was, of your first choices list, you will be getting a bid from that chapter. This is where I could be wrong, so if I am someone please correct me, but if you are in the top 52 at your top choice it doesn't matter where you are on the bid list at your second choice.

amIblue? · #4 09-09-2014, 11:29 PM

If you do choose to drop, start thinking NOW about what you can do this semester and in the spring to improve your outcome. Join organizations. Meet as many people as you can. Keep your social media clean, and keep your reputation sparkling.

AZTheta · #5 09-09-2014, 11:38 PM

The problem that I see is that what was said (about her being in the top ten on Rutgers' bid list so that is why she ended up there) was incorrect. For the love of Mike, that is NOT how bid matching works. ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH.

It wouldn't matter where she was on their list, if she was high enough on USC's list to get a bid before they hit their quota. And bid lists are score-based, not alphabetical. Further, every chapter (sorority) has its own legacy policy. No universals.

ETA: is this a situation where putting down only one chapter (Single Intentional Preference) would have worked in her favor? I'm sure she's wondering.

AOII Angel · #6 09-09-2014, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AZTheta

The problem that I see is that what was said (about her being in the top ten on Rutgers' bid list so that is why she ended up there) was incorrect. For the love of Mike, that is NOT how bid matching works. ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH.

It wouldn't matter where she was on their list, if she was high enough on USC's list to get a bid before they hit their quota. And bid lists are score-based, not alphabetical. Further, every chapter (sorority) has its own legacy policy. No universals.

ETA: is this a situation where putting down only one chapter (Single Intentional Preference) would have worked in her favor? I'm sure she's wondering.

She wouldn't have a bid at all with SIP. She couldn't be a quota addition without maximizing her options. The only benefit would be not being bound to Rutgers for a year. The whole situation sucks, but all of it could been avoided if big sister had just kept her thoughts to herself. Hopefully, HCTS will make the most out of her freshman year and go through again on her own terms.

AZTheta · #7 09-10-2014, 12:00 AM

^^^thanks. It can't be explained or said enough times. I agree with your assessment.

wsucalsigmakapp · #8 09-10-2014, 12:03 AM

One more thing I would like to add is that your pledge class now makes up at least 25% of the chapter, the seniors will be gone quicker then you can imagine. You don't realize the power your class has. If you like your pledge class, recruit the kind of women you guys want. If you didn't like how they recruited you, then push for change. Be the change, a sorority can be so vastly different in 1-2 years. If you think you could see your self living with the women in your pledge class, then stick it out and make it what you hoped it would be.

ASUADPi · #9 09-10-2014, 12:10 AM

Um why are we continuing to call ADPi "Rutgers". Why continue to pretend that we don't know that ADPi was "Rutgers".

We all know that older sister hated ADPi to the point that she resigned her membership.
We all know that the chapter is struggling as the house isn't full.
We all know that the chapter was dirty rushing.
We all know that PNM's have complained to greek life about said chapter.
And we all know that the OP hated going to the chapter.
Oh and we all know that the OP felt ADPi "robbed" her of being in USC (whoever that is) because older sister explained bid matching horribly.

AOII Angel · #10 09-10-2014, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi

Um why are we continuing to call ADPi "Rutgers". Why continue to pretend that we don't know that ADPi was "Rutgers".

We all know that older sister hated ADPi to the point that she resigned her membership.
We all know that the chapter is struggling as the house isn't full.
We all know that the chapter was dirty rushing.
We all know that PNM's have complained to greek life about said chapter.
And we all know that the OP hated going to the chapter.
Oh and we all know that the OP felt ADPi "robbed" her of being in USC (whoever that is) because older sister explained bid matching horribly.

Yeah, that's exactly why I'm calling them Rutgers. They don't deserve to have this thread pop up when you google.

HereComesTheSun · #11 09-10-2014, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi

Um why are we continuing to call ADPi "Rutgers". Why continue to pretend that we don't know that ADPi was "Rutgers".

We all know that older sister hated ADPi to the point that she resigned her membership.
We all know that the chapter is struggling as the house isn't full.
We all know that the chapter was dirty rushing.
We all know that PNM's have complained to greek life about said chapter.
And we all know that the OP hated going to the chapter.
Oh and we all know that the OP felt ADPi "robbed" her of being in USC (whoever that is) because older sister explained bid matching horribly.

Although I really did want to be in USC, I didn't feel just robbed from them because I can't be robbed from a chapter I was never actually a part of. I felt robbed of having an unbiased recruitment process where it wasn't just "your sister this" "your sister that" and being pressured into something.

And I would prefer if you please used the pseudonyms just out of respect for them because somebody said earlier where the school was and I don't want that to be out there, hence the aliases.

ASUADPi · #12 09-10-2014, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HereComesTheSun

Although I really did want to be in USC, I didn't feel just robbed from them because I can't be robbed from a chapter I was never actually a part of. I felt robbed of having an unbiased recruitment process where it wasn't just "your sister this" "your sister that" and being pressured into something.

And I would prefer if you please used the pseudonyms just out of respect for them because somebody said earlier where the school was and I don't want that to be out there, hence the aliases.

Um hello YOU are the one who gave it away by saying that your sister called saying you got a bid to ADPi!!!!!

YOU are the one who broke your code! Don't you DARE get on me about what you have been bitching about in regards to my sorority!

AOII Angel · #13 09-10-2014, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi

Um hello YOU are the one who gave it away by saying that your sister called saying you got a bid to ADPi!!!!!

YOU are the one who broke your code! Don't you DARE get on me about what you have been bitching about in regards to my sorority!

No kidding. She also completely gave away USC's identity to anyone who wants to figure it out.

DeltaBetaBaby · #14 09-10-2014, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi

Um why are we continuing to call ADPi "Rutgers". Why continue to pretend that we don't know that ADPi was "Rutgers".

We all know that older sister hated ADPi to the point that she resigned her membership.
We all know that the chapter is struggling as the house isn't full.
We all know that the chapter was dirty rushing.
We all know that PNM's have complained to greek life about said chapter.
And we all know that the OP hated going to the chapter.
Oh and we all know that the OP felt ADPi "robbed" her of being in USC (whoever that is) because older sister explained bid matching horribly.

And we all know that there are major holes in this story...her sister resigned membership, yet knew where she was on the bid list? NOPE.

Benzgirl · #15 09-10-2014, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

And we all know that there are major holes in this story...her sister resigned membership, yet knew where she was on the bid list? NOPE.

Yep. I called Bull Shit early in the story.

To the OP, very few people know on which bid list you land and where you are on the second bid list. They can't tell you if you are #1 or #100 of their own chapter's list, let alone where you land on another chapter's list.

Typically, viewing the list is limited to 2-4 people, which includes the alums and at no time are paper copies to be floating around. They are always to be shredded after they are entered. This prevents girls who end up pledging your chapter from knowing they were dead last on your list, even though they got a bid.

Also, your sister doesn't just "resign" by sending a letter. It's a process that she would need to go through since initiation into a chapter is for life and not until you feel like moving on to another hobby.

It sounds like things were meant to be. Get involved in other organizations and enjoy your four years.