I suicided

[als463]

Originally Posted by PinkSkyAtNight

Not sure, but under no circumstance is someone obligated to tell you any reason for why they listed chapters the way they did.

If someone doesn't insult or degrade anyone, they should be free to ask a question without a university employee/adviser jumping all over them. The simple act of SIP'ing is not an insult. If she had said "I didn't want that chapter because ALL of them are (insert insult)", then by all means would you be justified in defending your position. But she didn't do that, and not everyone who comes here to ask questions does.

You don't think it is insulting to SIP because someone would rather receive no bid than a bid from a particular chapter? Okay. Then I guess we can agree to disagree. Telling someone that having a hard time finding a friend in a sea of 300+ women is unlikely and possibly due to their own attitude is hardly insulting them. It's being honest. I stand behind that statement and I won't apologize. It's a harsh reality. Depending upon her class standing and the fact that even struggling chapters don't necessarily struggle that much to find women to join them, she may have just missed the boat to become Greek. That's a reality.

[PinkSkyAtNight]

Originally Posted by als463

You don't think it is insulting to SIP because someone would rather receive no bid than a bid from a particular chapter? Okay. Then I guess we can agree to disagree. Telling someone that having a hard time finding a friend in a sea of 300+ women is unlikely and possibly due to their own attitude is hardly insulting them. It's being honest. I stand behind that statement and I won't apologize. It's a harsh reality. Depending upon her class standing and the fact that even struggling chapters don't necessarily struggle that much to find women to join them, she may have just missed the boat to become Greek. That's a reality.

I think SIP is insulting in SOME situations, but not all. And we don't know the backstory, she wasn't providing it and wasn't obligated to in any way. So no, I don't find it insulting without knowing more details. You are free to make any judgements you like, but others of us will come to their defense because we are seasoned enough to know that sometimes there are situations where SIP could be understandable. And again, her post wasn't a personal pity party unlike other posters, so your response is really unwarranted and a major turnoff.

[DGTess]

Originally Posted by als463

You don't think it is insulting to SIP because someone would rather receive no bid than a bid from a particular chapter? Okay. Then I guess we can agree to disagree. Telling someone that having a hard time finding a friend in a sea of 300+ women is unlikely and possibly due to their own attitude is hardly insulting them. It's being honest. I stand behind that statement and I won't apologize. It's a harsh reality. Depending upon her class standing and the fact that even struggling chapters don't necessarily struggle that much to find women to join them, she may have just missed the boat to become Greek. That's a reality.

Perhaps "a friend" is not what she's looking for in sorority membership. Perhaps six friends is not what she's looking for, and perhaps nothing about the symbols, philanthropy, or collective vibe spoke to her. That's HER choice.

So, a simple "Your chances of a bid through COB are probably slim, but you can't know unless you sign up." might have been appropriate.

[sigmagirl2000]

Originally Posted by DGTess

Perhaps "a friend" is not what she's looking for in sorority membership. Perhaps six friends is not what she's looking for, and perhaps nothing about the symbols, philanthropy, or collective vibe spoke to her. That's HER choice.

So, a simple "Your chances of a bid through COB are probably slim, but you can't know unless you sign up." might have been appropriate.

well stated.