Auburn University Recruitment 2014

[DeltaBetaBaby]

But if lots of PNM's don't have recs, or have only a scattered few, then most PNM's will still have invites, just perhaps a more limited number. I know nothing specific to Auburn, but from what I know of RFM in other big recruitments, there are likely chapters that have enough invitations to invite back everyone who makes the grade cuts. In fact, the rec confusion can, in a backwards sort of way, HELP some of the weaker recruiting chapters, because they might have a shot at top PNM's who don't have recs and therefore get released from the stronger recruiting chapters.

Which is to say, the advice from AU panhellenic is still dumb, but it's likely not catastrophic.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

But if lots of PNM's don't have recs, or have only a scattered few, then most PNM's will still have invites, just perhaps a more limited number. I know nothing specific to Auburn, but from what I know of RFM in other big recruitments, there are likely chapters that have enough invitations to invite back everyone who makes the grade cuts. In fact, the rec confusion can, in a backwards sort of way, HELP some of the weaker recruiting chapters, because they might have a shot at top PNM's who don't have recs and therefore get released from the stronger recruiting chapters.

Which is to say, the advice from AU panhellenic is still dumb, but it's likely not catastrophic.

I agree that this situation can help WRCs, but it could be considered catastrophic from the vantage point of the PNM. If a PNM thinks she has a shot at a strong recruiting chapter, but doesn't get a rec since she thinks she doesn't need one, she might feel that disaster has struck.

[gatordeltapgh]

The whole "I thought recs where only extra credit" whine makes me crazy on the PNMs/mamma's part. Even if recs were only extra credit in some alternate universe that was not the SEC, wouldn't you WANT any and all extra credit?

I am sure most young women (or their parents) put in a ton of effort with their college applications. Why put in less effort now when you are making a choice that will last a lifetime? Ask a few questions! Learn the current lay of the land! Secure your darn recs!

(steps off soap box)

[TriDeltaSallie]

Originally Posted by gatordeltapgh

TEven if recs were only extra credit in some alternate universe that was not the SEC wouldn't you WANT any and all extra credit?

BINGO

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by gatordeltapgh

The whole "I thought recs where only extra credit" whine makes me crazy on the PNMs/mamma's part. Even if recs were only extra credit in some alternate universe that was not the SEC, wouldn't you WANT any and all extra credit?

I am sure most young women (or their parents) put in a ton of effort with their college applications. Why put in less effort now when you are making a choice that will last a lifetime? Ask a few questions! Learn the current lay of the land! Secure your darn recs!

(steps off soap box)

I really don't think you can equate choosing a college with sorority recruitment. At the heart of it, all NPC orgs provide pretty comparable experiences.

As I said, the advice from Auburn PH is dumb (not to mention unfairly classist and whatnot), but let's keep it in perspective.

[gatordeltapgh]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I really don't think you can equate choosing a college with sorority recruitment. At the heart of it, all NPC orgs provide pretty comparable experiences.

As I said, the advice from Auburn PH is dumb (not to mention unfairly classist and whatnot), but let's keep it in perspective.

I wasn't trying to paint with that wide of a brush. I am just perplexed as to why one would put in all this effort to get to ABC U and then pump the breaks.

[AUmom14]

Thank you everyone for all the encouraging messages about engineering and sororities.

My daughter was asked back to 6 houses. While most girls would be disappointed to not have a full schedule, my daughter is excited to be only 6 houses away to her new home!

[iamamom]

In the end you can only join one aumom. And I think the initial cuts are the easiest to handle. How attached could you really get after 20 minutes? These schedules sound exhausting to me too!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I really don't think you can equate choosing a college with sorority recruitment. At the heart of it, all NPC orgs provide pretty comparable experiences.

As I said, the advice from Auburn PH is dumb (not to mention unfairly classist and whatnot), but let's keep it in perspective.

Well, no. I certainly didn't have the experience that an NPC member at Auburn has, and vice versa. Not better or worse, but certainly they might feel they were in another world if they came to my campus.

But I've said many times that I don't get these people from Georgia who send their kids to Harvard and make sure to get a new, warmer wardrobe because it's kind of a given the climate will be different there, but think rush will be the same (and vice versa). I'm sure there are southerners who have ended up at Penn State with "game day dresses" and been a little surprised.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Well, no. I certainly didn't have the experience that an NPC member at Auburn has, and vice versa. Not better or worse, but certainly they might feel they were in another world if they came to my campus.

I meant across the NPC groups at the same campus. My point here is that the women who don't have recs likely get placed, if they maximize options and so on, and getting placed in a WRC is not really that different, in the long-run, from having a perfect recruitment.

It doesn't excuse bad advice from the PH, but I also don't think the PNM from a small town in Minnesota should lose sleep over not having a rec to all seventeen groups.

[GAauburnmama]

My DD has a full schedule for round 2 but only received invitations from 6 of her top 12. We are from out of state, I was not in a sorority and we unfortunately believed what we read on the Panhellenic website about recs. She did have a few but I wish we would have sought out advice on this website and had a rec from each sorority. Although one top sorority that she had two recs from dropped her but they were in her bottom 5 so she was not upset by that.
She is going into this with an open mind. Last night she said everyone was so sweet and all of the sororities seemed very similar and like they would be great.
There were only a few she felt like the forced conversations were awkward but that's to be expected I suppose.
I'm going to be purchasing some wine for myself to make it through this week...

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

But if lots of PNM's don't have recs, or have only a scattered few, then most PNM's will still have invites, just perhaps a more limited number. I know nothing specific to Auburn, but from what I know of RFM in other big recruitments, there are likely chapters that have enough invitations to invite back everyone who makes the grade cuts. In fact, the rec confusion can, in a backwards sort of way, HELP some of the weaker recruiting chapters, because they might have a shot at top PNM's who don't have recs and therefore get released from the stronger recruiting chapters.

Which is to say, the advice from AU panhellenic is still dumb, but it's likely not catastrophic.

But the problem with this is that it further diminishes the "mutual" aspect of mutual selection for the PNMs.

It must be stressful for the PNMs who followed AU Panhellenic advice to now hear that most in their rush group have at least one (and many two) recs to each chapter. They may be left wondering if a chapter they loved released them for lack of a rec -- especially since this is their most favorable (and perhaps only) opportunity to have numerous invitations during recruitment.

Best never to leave "extra credit" on the table in any competitive endeavor (that matters to you, anyway).

[LAblondeGPhi]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

But if lots of PNM's don't have recs, or have only a scattered few, then most PNM's will still have invites, just perhaps a more limited number. I know nothing specific to Auburn, but from what I know of RFM in other big recruitments, there are likely chapters that have enough invitations to invite back everyone who makes the grade cuts. In fact, the rec confusion can, in a backwards sort of way, HELP some of the weaker recruiting chapters, because they might have a shot at top PNM's who don't have recs and therefore get released from the stronger recruiting chapters.

Which is to say, the advice from AU panhellenic is still dumb, but it's likely not catastrophic.

I was thinking the same thing as this. It's still not "fair" to the PNMs who only find out too late how important recs are. But, theoretically, if enough PNMs come in with no recs, then there will be some who get invites to many of the chapters just because chapters need to hit their invite numbers each day.

[HQWest]

I also wanted to say that it complicates the issue because there are always girls who say " I didn't have any recs and I did great!" when really they just didnt know they had a rec because a friend of their mom or a teacher or the local alum group sent in a rec for them

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by HQWest

I also wanted to say that it complicates the issue because there are always girls who say " I didn't have any recs and I did great!" when really they just didnt know they had a rec because a friend of their mom or a teacher or the local alum group sent in a rec for them

Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes! This happens all the time and the clueless, over confident PNM thinks that she was so super special that she got into fabulous ABC without a rec., when in actuality her kindergarten teacher/ballet instructor/choir director sent in a rec., unbeknownst to the PNM.