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Old 07-13-2014, 11:50 PM
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In this proposal, the people decide for themselves.
They aren't targeted and informed by themselves. How will these people hear about the program? Mailings and notifications will use outlets that reach particular demographics (not the middle to upper class). Who decides the audience to be placed on the list of targets?

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If people decide for themselves, how is it your business?
The same way you consider it enough of your business to form an opinion in support of such a program. The same way other programs are my business. And "decide for themselves" has been a much debated phrase for generations.

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In the proposed system, anyone could elect to take the money. That's a little different than what the Nazis did, asshole. How you could even compare that to the concentration camps is imbecilic at best.
First off, bigoted bitch, Nazi eugenics spanned beyond the horror of concentration camps and compulsory sterilization occurred in the USA and around the world up until relatively recently. You really need to read. Do your brain a favor.

"Anyone" cannot elect to take the money because you already said it targets the "less desirable". In your mind, it is as simple as saying "yes" or "no" to some money. These are overwhelmingly disadvantaged people who are being labeled and stigmatized as "less desirable" and told that it is ideal that they be sterilized. Even if they do not participate in the paid sterilization program, membership in the "less desirable" group will resonate. You don't see the downward spiral because you are truly a clueless bigot.

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Doubt it. Having worked extensively with said demographic, I'm nearly positive that most of them would take $1,000 or some amount for a free medical procedure which would result in the savings of billions of dollars and the elimination of generational poverty.
I have also worked extensively with particular demographics and I know researchers and practitioners who have struggled for years to get particular demographics to participate in PAID research and PAID medical procedures. This is no different. Minimal success in a couple cities or states doesn't mean a substantive percentage of people are willing to be sterilized for money. It also doesn't mean billions of dollars are saved and generational poverty is eliminated. This has not been supported by research. Target populations aren't obligated to care about hypothetical savings of billions of dollars and hypothetical elimination of generational poverty.

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Old 07-14-2014, 12:22 AM
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Minimal success in a couple cities or states doesn't mean a substantive percentage of people are willing to be sterilized for money. .
Cool.. I guess it's not an issue then.
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Old 07-14-2014, 12:25 AM
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Cool.. I guess it's not an issue then.
You are a perpetual brain fart.
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