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Old 06-13-2014, 02:17 PM
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And I'll flounce, mainly cause I more or less agree with dr. Phill and 33girl. So I wouldn't be adding much new. Except I do feel the demand for surgery is a bit extreme. And the legal situation might change soon cause the American Medical Association just declared that transgender people should be able I change their legal gender on their birth certificate without surgery. So the whole title 9 thing will probably an irrelevant argument before to long
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:20 PM
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And I'll flounce, mainly cause I more or less agree with dr. Phill and 33girl. So I wouldn't be adding much new. Except I do feel the demand for surgery is a bit extreme. And the legal situation might change soon cause the American Medical Association just declared that transgender people should be able I change their legal gender on their birth certificate without surgery. So the whole title 9 thing will probably an irrelevant argument before to long
I agree. I also think that many people who have commented don't know a lot about transgender life and have made pretty ignorant statements.
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Old 06-13-2014, 03:52 PM
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I agree. I also think that many people who have commented don't know a lot about transgender life and have made pretty ignorant statements.
No, they don't know. That is the problem. Until the population at large understands the issue more fully, don't expect the NPC to be opening the doors. We are governed almost exclusively by old women. Yes, collegiate women vote, but it's the older women who set policy. Transgender interest is going to be fairly low so I don't see a huge push to change policies. For a while, I believe you will mainly see accepting chapters practicing a don't ask don't tell type of policy. What HQ doesn't know won't hurt them. The same occurred in the early days of lesbian members joining. If a chapter actually bothers to call and ask for permission, I suspect they will hit a brick wall.
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Old 06-13-2014, 04:04 PM
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And I'll flounce, mainly cause I more or less agree with dr. Phill and 33girl. So I wouldn't be adding much new. Except I do feel the demand for surgery is a bit extreme. And the legal situation might change soon cause the American Medical Association just declared that transgender people should be able I change their legal gender on their birth certificate without surgery. So the whole title 9 thing will probably an irrelevant argument before to long
You are contributing to the discussion. I agree with you. If a GLO wants to require/force/verify surgery then that GLO is in rough territory. I would much rather a GLO deny someone who says she or he is transgender than requiring/forcing/verifying surgery. Even checking the birth certification is objectifying and dehumanizing. Most GLOs don't check genitalia, biological sex and gender, surgical history, and birth certificates for applicants and members NOW and we should NEVER do that.

ETA: 33girl, thanks for the reminder. I can't believe I used that term and have edited my first post. For the GCers who are unfamiliar: http://www.isna.org/faq/hermaphrodite

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