Going back to college for another degree and rushing a fraternity, advice?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Signed up user

morals morals and morals again

have there been guys in their mid to late 20s that have done it? because I am starting to see exactly why my thread which is about fraternities has managed to attract quite a number of female users who don't really have my best interest in heart for this given thing.

You are going back to a school with a very traditional population in terms of age. If you were going someplace with many commuters and returned students, most likely your age wouldn't be a problem at all because there would be others in a similar boat.

It's possible to get a bid as far as the rules are concerned, but know there's a great chance it won't happen.

[Signed up user]

Come on now, everyone knows what some of the female users were doing was not giving advice. Being 26 and having lots of social experience I know how gender relations work. A lot of these female users were probably in sororities back in their college days and were at their peak. Then graduation came and they had to move on to the real world which can be one cold place. They long for those days when they were in a sorority and at their peak but those days will never come for them because they are long past their prime. As a result of all that they see a guy like me who through very unfortunate circumstances (poverty, strict parenting, etc.) wants to have a chance at being in a fraternity and it destroys them on the inside for someone to try and find happiness in that scene.

I didn't want to go there but I had to, this isn't about giving another perspective a try. This is a thread about fraternities and yes ideally I would like to hear from guys in a fraternity and not females who are likely away from their sorority days.

Nothing is going to stop me from trying, I do know that 26 isn't that old and I have no issues being around 18-22 year old guys because I can relate to them. Most guys my age are settling down and having families, they don't like the idea of drinking and partying. I never had a chance to enjoy that, ever, so that is one of the reasons I want to be in a fraternity along with others such as belonging to a brotherhood of like minded men who just want to enjoy life.

IN b4 female user tries to get the last word and is still in denial about the fact that she is well past her prime.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by Signed up user

Come on now, everyone knows what some of the female users were doing was not giving advice. Being 26 and having lots of social experience I know how gender relations work. A lot of these female users were probably in sororities back in their college days and were at their peak. Then graduation came and they had to move on to the real world which can be one cold place. They long for those days when they were in a sorority and at their peak but those days will never come for them because they are long past their prime. As a result of all that they see a guy like me who through very unfortunate circumstances (poverty, strict parenting, etc.) wants to have a chance at being in a fraternity and it destroys them on the inside for someone to try and find happiness in that scene.

I didn't want to go there but I had to, this isn't about giving another perspective a try. This is a thread about fraternities and yes ideally I would like to hear from guys in a fraternity and not females who are likely away from their sorority days.

Nothing is going to stop me from trying, I do know that 26 isn't that old and I have no issues being around 18-22 year old guys because I can relate to them. Most guys my age are settling down and having families, they don't like the idea of drinking and partying. I never had a chance to enjoy that, ever, so that is one of the reasons I want to be in a fraternity along with others such as belonging to a brotherhood of like minded men who just want to enjoy life.

IN b4 female user tries to get the last word and is still in denial about the fact that she is well past her prime.

QFP... just priceless.

[elicampbell]

Originally Posted by Signed up user

Nothing is going to stop me from trying, I do know that 26 isn't that old and I have no issues being around 18-22 year old guys because I can relate to them. Most guys my age are settling down and having families, they don't like the idea of drinking and partying. I never had a chance to enjoy that, ever, so that is one of the reasons I want to be in a fraternity along with others such as belonging to a brotherhood of like minded men who just want to enjoy life.

I'll bite - Do you think that the active members who are 18-22 can relate to you? They will be the one offering you a bid to join. If you come across as a douche canoe in Rush, you will not need to worry about membership.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by elicampbell

I'll bite - Do you think that the active members who are 18-22 can relate to you? They will be the one offering you a bid to join. If you come across as a douche canoe in Rush, you will not need to worry about membership.

A lot of active fraternity men are misogynists, so it looks like the OP will have that in common with them.

[Signed up user]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

A lot of active fraternity men are misogynists, so it looks like the OP will have that in common with them.

Being a misogynist means I think of women as less than men which I really don't. I just believe that in this particular situation the given female users who have been trying to actively stop me from being a part of Greek Life and enjoy some social experiences that way happen to fall into a certain group of females. Just like I feel that there are certain kinds of males who were probably anti-social growing up and made no effort to better their social lives. Instead of trying to do what is best for them they try to sabotage others, I look down on those males but that doesn't mean I hate all males.

Read my statements carefully, I never said I think less of all women or even implied it. I singled out a certain category of women but that is because those female users were actively trying to stop me rather than give me advice.

[33girl]

You got several good responses FROM MEN telling you what to expect in rush. You got one response from a woman who I do agree was being a little moralistic. Instead of just saying "I realize the age difference could be an issue and I have no interest in 18 year old girls" you got a bit oinky about it.

No one is going to say what will happen because we don't know that for any rushee.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Signed up user

Do fraternity guys just not get on the fraternity section? I would like to hear directly from them and not sorority girls who are well past their prime and have likely graduated college.

I am a guy. So is elicampbell. So is TSteven.

Originally Posted by Signed up user

morals morals and morals again

have there been guys in their mid to late 20s that have done it? because I am starting to see exactly why my thread which is about fraternities has managed to attract quite a number of female users who don't really have my best interest in heart for this given thing.

Since you seem to unable to read what people have said and see the answer to your question, I'll try one more time:

1. Some fraternities may have restrictions on whether bids can be given to grad students. If you attempt to rush a fraternity that has such a prohibition, then no, membership in that fraternity will not be possible for you.
2. Even if a national fraternity does not have a rule limiting bids to undergrads, some chapters may have such a rule, whether written or unwritten. If that is the case with a fraternity you are rushing, then no, it is not a real possibility that you will get a bid from that fraternity.
3. Even if the rules of fraternities allow offering bids to undergrads, the campus culture may be such as to make it unheard of or frowned upon. In that case, while it may be theoretically possible to receive a bid, it is not at all likely.
4. Even if there are no other obstacles to your being offered a bid, a chapter may still choose not to actually offer you one for reasons such as those that people have described in this thread. So again, while it would be theoretically possible to receive a bid, it might also be very unlikely.
5. It is also possible that, if there are no regulations prohibiting it, a chapter could choose to offer you a bid. That decision is completely up to the chapter, based on criteria of what the chapter is looking for in new members, and no one else can predict how likely it is that any chapter might actually offer a bid.

In other words, have there ever been older, non-traditional students who've received bids? Sure. Is that any indication at all of the likelihood of you receiving a bid at ASU? Not in the least. Everything depends on the specific fraternity, the members of the specific chapter, the specific campus and, not least of all, the specific rushee.

Originally Posted by elicampbell

Here is some free advice - when you ask for advice, don't discount it because it differs from what you want to read.

Absolutely.

And I'd refrain from the insults, too. All they do is make you look like a fool or a prick or both. People from Arizona, and ASU, do read these threads. The 26-year-old, starting out in STEM, now studying art at ASU will be easy to pick out in rush. Chances are you've already started making an impression on the guys you hope will offer you a bid, or on their friends, and so far it's not a positive one.