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Old 04-13-2014, 12:34 AM
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I'm curious is the resources are comparable. At my alma mater, Greek Life had a MUCH larger budget than the MC office did.
And at many schools, Greek Life/Student Activities has a larger influence/impact on campus life than Multi/cultural offices.

It is an interesting model. At face value (what k_s has presented) the model seems super segregated but I could see how that is beneficial for NPHC/MCG. I think it implies that the university acknowledges that the councils and organizations operate very differently and need their own space to do their thing, but it also implies that the university is not going to create any common ground for all orgs to share.
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:36 AM
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And at many schools, Greek Life/Student Activities has a larger influence/impact on campus life than Multi/cultural offices.

It is an interesting model. At face value (what k_s has presented) the model seems super segregated but I could see how that is beneficial for NPHC/MCG. I think it implies that the university acknowledges that the councils and organizations operate very differently and need their own space to do their thing, but it also implies that the university is not going to create any common ground for all orgs to share.
Can I just be super honest and slightly shady?

Why should the orgs share common ground? Even aside from recruitment practices, it's apples and oranges, from systems of advising to theories of lifetime commitment. And social justice.
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Old 04-13-2014, 01:04 PM
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Can I just be super honest and slightly shady?

Why should the orgs share common ground? Even aside from recruitment practices, it's apples and oranges, from systems of advising to theories of lifetime commitment. And social justice.
Well that's my neutral/unbiased answer. To be really real... you're right. Apples and oranges still means we're all fruit. Maybe we're apples and tomatoes. Both fruits except we're fruits that everyone treats like vegetables?

Now this is stuck in my head:
You're A Vegetable, You're A Vegetable
Still They Hate You, You're A Vegetable
You're Just A Buffet, You're A Vegetable
They Eat Off Of You, You're A Vegetable
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Old 04-13-2014, 01:43 PM
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Can I just be super honest and slightly shady?

Why should the orgs share common ground? Even aside from recruitment practices, it's apples and oranges, from systems of advising to theories of lifetime commitment. And social justice.
I've said this in other threads. There is no reason to act like the different councils have anything in common other than Greek letters. At a national level, there are some common interests, such as allowing single gender organizations, housing and insurance policies, etc., on which the groups might want to work together (for example, the bill to allow donations to Greek housing to be treated like donations to a university for tax purposes), but as far as programming? Nope.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:07 PM
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Well that's my neutral/unbiased answer. To be really real... you're right. Apples and oranges still means we're all fruit. Maybe we're apples and tomatoes. Both fruits except we're fruits that everyone treats like vegetables?

Now this is stuck in my head:
You're A Vegetable, You're A Vegetable
Still They Hate You, You're A Vegetable
You're Just A Buffet, You're A Vegetable
They Eat Off Of You, You're A Vegetable
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I've said this in other threads. There is no reason to act like the different councils have anything in common other than Greek letters. At a national level, there are some common interests, such as allowing single gender organizations, housing and insurance policies, etc., on which the groups might want to work together (for example, the bill to allow donations to Greek housing to be treated like donations to a university for tax purposes), but as far as programming? Nope.
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:34 PM
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I've said this in other threads. There is no reason to act like the different councils have anything in common other than Greek letters. At a national level, there are some common interests, such as allowing single gender organizations, housing and insurance policies, etc., on which the groups might want to work together (for example, the bill to allow donations to Greek housing to be treated like donations to a university for tax purposes), but as far as programming? Nope.
I'd agree with this more except for the membership of Alpha Phi Alpha, Kappa Alpha Psi and Iota Phi Theta in the NIC.
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:55 PM
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I'd agree with this more except for the membership of Alpha Phi Alpha, Kappa Alpha Psi and Iota Phi Theta in the NIC.
There are individual members of fraternities in the NIC who don't know NPHC fraternities are members of the NIC; and there are Alphas, Kappas, and Iotas who don't know their fraternity is a member of the NIC.

Therefore, those national dynamics are minuscule as far as some people are concerned and do not mirror what is happening at the local and college levels.
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:03 PM
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I'd agree with this more except for the membership of Alpha Phi Alpha, Kappa Alpha Psi and Iota Phi Theta in the NIC.
Phi Beta Sigma is also a member of the NIC.
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