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03-01-2014, 04:45 PM
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Some of these may have barriers to expansion or may be "special" places with undesirable circumstances, but they sure have solid numbers, or too few groups to sustain the high numbers.
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I agree some of these have special circumstances that may not make them desirable to the chapters not represented on their campuses, like Alabama. It would take several million dollars to build a chapter house there and the whole old row vs. new row thing might come into play, not to mention the publicity surrounding the aftermath of last year's recruitment. Kentucky might also fall into that category. Quota may have been higher than usual, but one chapter missed quota by quite a lot. Total was raised and over half of the chapters had to go some sort of informal recruitment. So, using quota this year as a benchmark for expansion might be premature. I would want to see what next year brings before opening for expansion. Those were the two that stood out to me.
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03-01-2014, 05:46 PM
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So, using quota this year as a benchmark for expansion might be premature. I would want to see what next year brings before opening for expansion.
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I completely agree that one year's results shouldn't lead to expansion. I only listed the current year, but that's because I'm lazy.  .
I didn't list some schools that have the numbers, but have undergone very recent expansion or planned expansion that may help alleviate the overcrowding (i.e. San Diego State, Florida State, Georgia College, Ole Miss).
I also wonder what the inner workings are that lead some to schools to open when there doesn't appear to be a demonstrated need. I know there can be other compelling reasons, I just wish I knew what they were in each case!
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03-01-2014, 05:56 PM
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Rutgers University can use another one or two NPC orgs., since Phi Mu colonized with 150 girls successfully. Any thoughts?
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03-01-2014, 06:03 PM
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I also wonder what the inner workings are that lead some to schools to open when there doesn't appear to be a demonstrated need. I know there can be other compelling reasons, I just wish I knew what they were in each case!
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I know that in a couple of cases it's the need to bring more alumni money into the university. Greeks donate to their undergraduate alma maters almost twice as much as their non-Greek counter parts. If a university creates more Greeks, they are expanding their potential donor base. In one of my PhD research classes, we were in class with individuals from all disciplines. One of the ladies in the class was from University of Kentucky and worked in the alumni giving office and every piece of research she found indicated that students are more likely to donate to their undergrad institution than their graduate institution. Alumni who were Greek feel more highly identified with their alma mater than non Greeks and give more. At some schools, almost twice as much or more. I have a feeling this is the real reason my alma mater suddenly found land for Greek expansion after saying for two decades there was no land.
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03-01-2014, 06:18 PM
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I know that in a couple of cases it's the need to bring more alumni money into the university. Greeks donate to their undergraduate alma maters almost twice as much as their non-Greek counter parts. If a university creates more Greeks, they are expanding their potential donor base.
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You are correct. This explains recent NPC expansion on a campus near my hometown which, while perfectly filling the need for additional Greek money-giving alums, doesn't solve the university's other problems.
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03-01-2014, 06:45 PM
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You are correct. This explains recent NPC expansion on a campus near my hometown which, while perfectly filling the need for additional Greek money-giving alums, doesn't solve the university's other problems.
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03-03-2014, 11:17 AM
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I also wonder what the inner workings are that lead some to schools to open when there doesn't appear to be a demonstrated need. I know there can be other compelling reasons, I just wish I knew what they were in each case!
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I totally wonder about this question as well. Kansas State had increased total total by about 20 over the past couple years, while at the same time opening for extension. TriSigma was supposed to colonize last month, but has pulled back. Seven of 12 existing chapters are under total this spring, and 6 are doing COB (which I am sure opened after the decision to postpone colonization.) I feel badly for TriSigma; it doesn't seem to me that the demand was there to extend at this time.
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