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[maconmagnolia]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Somehow, the suggestion that "you can expect no better from those kinds of people" seems a bit ironic under the circumstances.

I agree. I just love when people who advocate for equal rights for everyone, don't stereotype, etc. make comments such as that. (sarcasm)

For the record, I'm from a small town, could be considered a "country" person or a "redneck" and fully support gay rights. Just because someone is a "redneck" or from the South doesn't mean they're going to say things like Phil Robertson said.

Anyway, as disgusted as I was by WHAT he said, I was more disgusted by the language he used and the specific things he said. It would have been different if he simply said "I do not support gay marriage" instead of comparing it to bestiality and prostitution.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I've been saying this for years

If nothing else, gay couples splitting maybe have an arguable argument that their partnership is a legal partnership and they are due the protection of the courts, but I haven't had the opportunity to try that yet. I'm sure our civil judges would love me bringing essentially a divorce case to them though. Hope I get that opportunity before we just get 'em divorced like everyone else.

FWIW, one of our gay friends recently divorced. He said that he obtained it legally, but I have no details to the legal aspect. Since he and his partner were married for 14 years, I would assume it was more of a partnership and the dissolving of the same. Was same sex marriage legal anywhere in the US 14 years ago?

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by honeychile

FWIW, one of our gay friends recently divorced. He said that he obtained it legally, but I have no details to the legal aspect. Since he and his partner were married for 14 years, I would assume it was more of a partnership and the dissolving of the same. Was same sex marriage legal anywhere in the US 14 years ago?

Hawaii? I think the HI Supreme Court ruled to allow same sex marriage in the early 90's causing DOMA to get passed in the mid 90's.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Hawaii? I think the HI Supreme Court ruled to allow same sex marriage in the early 90's causing DOMA to get passed in the mid 90's.

Actually IIRC correctly, DOMA was passed because the federal government was afraid that the Hawaiian legistalture was going to approve marriage equality which ended up happening only recently.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Actually IIRC correctly, DOMA was passed because the federal government was afraid that the Hawaiian legistalture was going to approve marriage equality which ended up happening only recently.

I think it was more fear that the Hawaii Supreme Court would do so. The state Supreme Court had held that prohibition of same-sex marriage violated the equal protection clause of the state constitution and therefore could only survive if the state could pass the "strict scrutiny" standard by showing that the prohibition was narrowly tailored to further a compelling state interest. The court sent it back to the trial court for further proceedings as to that standard. That (1) fueled the DOMA engine, and (2) led to a state constitutional amendment in Hawaii that explicitly gave the legislature the authority to ban same-sex marriage, which mooted the lawsuit.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by honeychile

FWIW, one of our gay friends recently divorced. He said that he obtained it legally, but I have no details to the legal aspect. Since he and his partner were married for 14 years, I would assume it was more of a partnership and the dissolving of the same. Was same sex marriage legal anywhere in the US 14 years ago?

No, but people could cobble together agreements and trusts and living wills to create some of the rights of marriage, and they could own property together, and they could have ceremonies. They just couldn't get a license and get the benefit of family law and family law courts, or have their marriages recognized by entities outside of their families.

MA was first in 2004.