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Old 12-21-2013, 01:55 PM
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:15 PM
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I quoted this on my Facebook page. Even though I'm not a huge fan of Rick Warren, he nails this one.

“Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.”
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One of the posts following this: I would add, "don't judge, don't hate, respect one another, live and let live, keep an open heart".
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:32 PM
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I quoted this on my Facebook page. Even though I'm not a huge fan of Rick Warren, he nails this one.

“Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.”
~Rick Warren

One of the posts following this: I would add, "don't judge, don't hate, respect one another, live and let live, keep an open heart".
And I'm sure that if someone in Rick Warren's employ gave an interview to Ladies' Home Journal where they said something that makes him look like a jackass for employing them, he'd fire them.
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:52 PM
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Nobody I've seen has actually cared that the guy said it because you can expect no better from those kinds of people.
Somehow, the suggestion that "you can expect no better from those kinds of people" seems a bit ironic under the circumstances.
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:46 PM
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Somehow, the suggestion that "you can expect no better from those kinds of people" seems a bit ironic under the circumstances.
It is extremely ironic.
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:25 PM
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Somehow, the suggestion that "you can expect no better from those kinds of people" seems a bit ironic under the circumstances.
I agree. I just love when people who advocate for equal rights for everyone, don't stereotype, etc. make comments such as that. (sarcasm)

For the record, I'm from a small town, could be considered a "country" person or a "redneck" and fully support gay rights. Just because someone is a "redneck" or from the South doesn't mean they're going to say things like Phil Robertson said.

Anyway, as disgusted as I was by WHAT he said, I was more disgusted by the language he used and the specific things he said. It would have been different if he simply said "I do not support gay marriage" instead of comparing it to bestiality and prostitution.
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:39 PM
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I've been saying this for years

If nothing else, gay couples splitting maybe have an arguable argument that their partnership is a legal partnership and they are due the protection of the courts, but I haven't had the opportunity to try that yet. I'm sure our civil judges would love me bringing essentially a divorce case to them though. Hope I get that opportunity before we just get 'em divorced like everyone else.
FWIW, one of our gay friends recently divorced. He said that he obtained it legally, but I have no details to the legal aspect. Since he and his partner were married for 14 years, I would assume it was more of a partnership and the dissolving of the same. Was same sex marriage legal anywhere in the US 14 years ago?
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:55 PM
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FWIW, one of our gay friends recently divorced. He said that he obtained it legally, but I have no details to the legal aspect. Since he and his partner were married for 14 years, I would assume it was more of a partnership and the dissolving of the same. Was same sex marriage legal anywhere in the US 14 years ago?
Hawaii? I think the HI Supreme Court ruled to allow same sex marriage in the early 90's causing DOMA to get passed in the mid 90's.
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FWIW, one of our gay friends recently divorced. He said that he obtained it legally, but I have no details to the legal aspect. Since he and his partner were married for 14 years, I would assume it was more of a partnership and the dissolving of the same. Was same sex marriage legal anywhere in the US 14 years ago?
No, but people could cobble together agreements and trusts and living wills to create some of the rights of marriage, and they could own property together, and they could have ceremonies. They just couldn't get a license and get the benefit of family law and family law courts, or have their marriages recognized by entities outside of their families.

MA was first in 2004.
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