"Salvation Army says 'Gays Need to Be Put to Death'”

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Alright, I'll amend that to a highly placed representative of the Salvation Army was caught making a highly inflammatory statement and they are now trying to walk it back. Whether or not the interviewers were trying to understand the Salvation Army's position is neither here nor there.

Of course it is. The interview was either one of two things—an attempt to examine/understand the Salvation Army's position or an attempt to embarrass the Salvation Army. The former is the usual purpose of an interview, but the latter seems to be what was going here.

My problem is that this seems to be an incompetent interview (or a set-up) of an incompetent media director who either can't articulate the Salvation Army's actual position or can't recognize when words are being put in his mouth, all followed by news reports that mischaracterize what was actually said. No where does the (stupid) SA representative say gays "need to be put to death."

Like I said, I'm not defending the Sally Army's position on homosexuality. I just prefer to see it taken on honestly.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Like I said, I'm not defending the Sally Army's position on homosexuality. I just prefer to see it taken on honestly.

I agree. I never like picking sides when I don't know the sides. Why do you type "Sally"?

AZTheta talks to the media everyday. I have proof.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

AZTheta talks to the media everyday. I have proof.

You a blabbermouth. You in Big Trouble.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

You a blabbermouth. You in Big Trouble.

She is in big trouble. Ever since she asked me about "Sally," I can't get "Down by the Salley Gardens" out of my head.

Of course, there could be worse ear worms. Much worse.

[DrPhil]

AZTheta and MysticCat are bullies.

Salvation Army is in warm water. They won't be in hot water until people consistently and accurately know their "official" statement regarding this topic. Then you will have the Chik-Fil-A thing where some people protest but the majority patronizes the store even more. The decision of protesting perceived bigotry versus "agree to disagree" is a thread all by itself.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Of course it is. The interview was either one of two things—an attempt to examine/understand the Salvation Army's position or an attempt to embarrass the Salvation Army. The former is the usual purpose of an interview, but the latter seems to be what was going here.

My problem is that this seems to be an incompetent interview (or a set-up) of an incompetent media director who either can't articulate the Salvation Army's actual position or can't recognize when words are being put in his mouth, all followed by news reports that mischaracterize what was actually said. No where does the (stupid) SA representative say gays "need to be put to death."

Like I said, I'm not defending the Sally Army's position on homosexuality. I just prefer to see it taken on honestly.

I agree with what interviews are typically after. The words did not come out of his mouth, but he agreed with what they said and said those were their beliefs. That is not the same as getting into a "So when did you stop beating your wife?" situation. He said what he said and didn't defend their beliefs or deny some pretty heinous accusations. I call BS on this being a misrepresentation of this guy's understanding of the Salvation Army's position. If he didn't hear them, wow, he needs to pay better attention. Either way, he did say all of that when asked those questions, so I stand by my statement that it sounds like the Salvation Army is trying to walk back a highly inflammatory statement made by one of their minions. You have to own it when you make a mistake.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Either way, he did say all of that when asked those questions, so I stand by my statement that it sounds like the Salvation Army is trying to walk back a highly inflammatory statement made by one of their minions. You have to own it when you make a mistake.

Agree on owning it when you make a mistake, and agree that the Salvation Army is having to walk it back. But I stand by my assertion that he didn't say everything that some of the reports are saying "the Salvation Army says."

And I definitely agree that most people shouldn't be talking to the media. Things are really bad when you can't trust your media person to talk to the media, though.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Why do you type "Sally"?

"The Sally Army" is an old nickname for the Salvation Army.