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					Originally Posted by LuvMyPNM  Do they go back to grove/union today or just first house on their schedule? |  Today is Day 2 of Skit Parties. They already have those invitations, so they won't be meeting at the Union.
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			A little curve off the topic but ADPi has their sign up for the new house! 
To be located across the street from Kappa Alpha Theta on Rebel Drive! 
  
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				10-04-2013, 04:43 PM
			
			
			
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			Lane swerve/question:
 So do all campuses that use RFM and operate under quota/total now guarantee bids to PNMs who make it to pref and maximize their options? Or is there still a minuscule chance of getting released? I thought only Texas and a few other schools explicitly guaranteed placement.
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					Originally Posted by LXA SE285  Lane swerve/question:
 So do all campuses that use RFM and operate under quota/total now guarantee bids to PNMs who make it to pref and maximize their options? Or is there still a minuscule chance of getting released? I thought only Texas and a few other schools explicitly guaranteed placement.
 |  At many schools there is a minuscule chance just in case the PNM ends up being a serial killer or something. There are few schools that actually guarantee placement.
		 
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				10-04-2013, 05:19 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by WCsweet<3  At many schools there is a minuscule chance just in case the PNM ends up being a serial killer or something. There are few schools that actually guarantee placement. |  That is, if a chapter a PNM preffed found out something bad about her on Pref Night and they would not want to extend a bid to that particular PNM. If the PNM was low on both lists and each chapter where the PNM preffed already got to quota, that PNM would not receive a bid. 
  
This is very rare, but it could potentially happen. Extremely low percentage. (For the Ole Miss Moms -- don't go into panic-mode -- the chances are probably a fraction of a percentage).
		 
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				10-04-2013, 05:41 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by ChioLu  That is, if a chapter a PNM preffed found out something bad about her on Pref Night and they would not want to extend a bid to that particular PNM. If the PNM was low on both lists and each chapter where the PNM preffed already got to quota, that PNM would not receive a bid. 
 This is very rare, but it could potentially happen. Extremely low percentage. (For the Ole Miss Moms -- don't go into panic-mode -- the chances are probably a fraction of a percentage).
 |  wait... isn't this where quota additions would come into play? Assuming that the PNM had maximized her options and listed all groups where she attended preference on her MRABA?
		 
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			This may answer some questions, or it may create more questions. Click on the underlined portion to see the original web page.SCRIPT FOR POTENTIAL NEW MEMBERS SIGNING THE MRABA
Script to be used immediately before potential new member signs Membership Recruitment Acceptance Binding Agreement (MRABA)
 
 Explanation for Potential New Members
 
 Signing the Membership Recruitment Acceptance Binding Agreement
 
 The members of the National Panhellenic Conference want every potential new member to be informed about her
 options for joining a women’s fraternity. To be certain that each woman has this information, this script must be used
 immediately prior to signing the membership recruitment acceptance binding agreement. The script may be used for
 either a two- or three-Preference event schedule.
 __________________________________________________  _______________
 Good evening. You have just completed some of the busiest days of your college career. Now you have the opportunity
 to make a decision that will broaden your college experience and introduce you to a nationwide network of friends.
 Please carefully consider the following points as you complete your membership recruitment acceptance binding
 agreement.
 1. Your options when considering your agreement are:
 • Youmany choose notto complete an agreement atthistime.
 • Youmay choose to list any sororitywhose preference (last) event you attended and fromwhomyou are
 willing to accept an invitation to membership (a bid).
 • Youmay choose to list onlyone preference, but youmust understand thatthiswill limit yourpotentialto
 join any other NPC group during formal recruitment should you not be placed with your single (only)
 choice.
 2. When you sign this acceptance agreement, you are agreeing to accept an invitation to membership from any NPC
 fraternity/sorority that you have listed.
 3. Once the acceptance agreement has been turned in to the representative of the College Panhellenic Association, it
 cannot be altered or changed.
 4. If you receive an invitation to membership (a bid) from any NPC group that you have listed, and you choose not to
 accept it, you may not pledge any other NPC women’s fraternity/sorority on the campus until the beginning of the
 next primary recruitment period. [Explain the Unanimous Agreements and show the NPC Manual of Information,
 18th Edition. Then read III: The Panhellenic Compact, No. 4.]
 
 If you do not receive an invitation to membership (a bid) from any NPC group that you have listed, you are eligible for
 continuous open bidding. You must understand that not all NPC groups will have available places for new members.
			
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by ChioLu  That is, if a chapter a PNM preffed found out something bad about her on Pref Night and they would not want to extend a bid to that particular PNM. If the PNM was low on both lists and each chapter where the PNM preffed already got to quota, that PNM would not receive a bid. 
 This is very rare, but it could potentially happen. Extremely low percentage. (For the Ole Miss Moms -- don't go into panic-mode -- the chances are probably a fraction of a percentage).
 |  No, this is where Quota Additions come into play. If the PNM has played by all of the rules, she should be placed in a chapter and receive a bid.
 
To the earlier question on "guaranteed placement:" AFAIK, Tufts is the only school that guarantees women a bid. At all these other schools, a PNM could be dropped after round one, or right before pref, or whatever. It's only if she gets invited to pref and attends all preference parties that the odds of not getting a bid effectively disappear (save the Friday the 13th scenario).
		 
			
			
			
			
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				10-04-2013, 06:39 PM
			
			
			
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			^^^thank you.
		 
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			Dues/fees/housing costs info on each sorority was just posted on the Ole Miss Panhellenic page on FB.
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			I got to Oxford yesterday and found my daughter having mixed emotions. She had great returns from philanthropy and was fortunate to have a full schedule for skits. Some of the friends in Martin are not faring as well and she is struggling with that. She says the Gamma Chi's are enthusiastically promoting ADPi and she said visiting them at philanthropy was a highlight for her and for many girls. 
 The gift giving?  Don't get me started. Lilly Pad suggested I should spend $400-500 for bid day because that's what "everyone" will do. I had to politely not try to laugh and am totally regretting spending what I did. I found another store that had a smaller but really cute selection but they didn't do a mailer to parents so they weren't as well known. Hey moderator!  Next year a great thread would be one that included names of stores and ideas for gift giving, especially around the south. There have to be other, more reasonable options out there.  I truly feel that my daughter is having a successful rush; piling presents on everyday (many girls in Martin were getting gifts AND flowers everyday) is over kill. It reminds me of the grandparents that buy stacks of Christmas gifts so there are tons of presents to open. One really thoughtful, nice something would be better. <end of rant>.
 
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			OK, folks.  How many times - and in this thread - do we have to disect the MRABA and how bidding works?  Besides, they've been doing this at Ole Miss for a long, long time and they will get it right.  Let's not obsess over the minutiae.  If one attends all the parties to which they are matched and lists all the places where one attends pref, one will get a bid unless it's determined between the time the invitation was issued and the time the bid list is due to PH that one is an ax murderer or a convicted felon or the "best friend" of the entire varsity football team....if you get my drift..
 Let's trust the system, folks!
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			LOL, Titchou, you know what'll happen now--someone's daughter won't get a bid after attending 3  parties and they'll wonder how that could be and think, "Wait a minute! Titchou said...oh no..."
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				10-05-2013, 01:50 AM
			
			
			
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			So if I understand. If u get one party for pref you are 99.999% certain to get a bid if u sign the bid card?
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					Originally Posted by adiisis  So if I understand. If u get one party for pref you are 99.999% certain to get a bid if u sign the bid card? |  Yes. If you go to the maximum number of parties to which you are invited and you list all of those chapters on your bid card (so, just one chapter if you were only invited to pref at one chapter), you have maximized your options and are eligible for a quota addition, which means you have a VERY high probability of getting a bid.
		 
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