APO Philippines

[Kevin]

These are the kinds of conversations which should occur within the organization and not on an online forum.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Kevin

These are the kinds of conversations which should occur within the organization and not on an online forum.

Agreed. But the initial post was *not* one that should be left without a response.

[justifymylove36]

But I saw a video of APO hazing in the Phillipines. Like, not fun pledging stuff but a literal beatdown. I was shocked and hurt that people like that are brothers of mine because I don't identify with that. Also, even a Filipino VP has said he was hazed in APO, while also backtracking to say it doesn't go on any longer. The video I saw was from 2012. I hope Nationals will look into this.

I know hazing's everywhere, so I won't judge the entire country's chapters.

[Sen's Revenge]

Originally Posted by justifymylove36

But I saw a video of APO hazing in the Phillipines. Like, not fun pledging stuff but a literal beatdown. I was shocked and hurt that people like that are brothers of mine because I don't identify with that. Also, even a Filipino VP has said he was hazed in APO, while also backtracking to say it doesn't go on any longer. The video I saw was from 2012. I hope Nationals will look into this.

I know hazing's everywhere, so I won't judge the entire country's chapters.

Why did you need to post this at all?

[justifymylove36]

Because I replied to a question posted in an online forum.

But I'm sure you're trying to uncover some hidden bigoted motive on my part, so here goes: I was reading about hazing in Greek orgs weeks before and was curious to see if there was ever a serious issue with APO and hazing. I Googled "Alpha Phi Omega hazing" and sure enough there was a news story about a chapter somewhere on YouTube. It was in Tagalog and the only words I understood were "APO Hazing" and the video was just awful. Another link the search pointed to was the VP mentioning that he was hazed years ago.

Like I said, I am glad that APO branched off into another country and yes I find it touching that there is a love for our org all over the world. I found very positive APO blogs and videos from our brothers in the Philippines as well.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by justifymylove36

Because I replied to a question posted in an online forum.

But I'm sure you're trying to uncover some hidden bigoted motive on my part, so here goes: I was reading about hazing in Greek orgs weeks before and was curious to see if there was ever a serious issue with APO and hazing. I Googled "Alpha Phi Omega hazing" and sure enough there was a news story about a chapter somewhere on YouTube. It was in Tagalog and the only words I understood were "APO Hazing" and the video was just awful. Another link the search pointed to was the VP mentioning that he was hazed years ago.

Like I said, I am glad that APO branched off into another country and yes I find it touching that there is a love for our org all over the world. I found very positive APO blogs and videos from our brothers in the Philippines as well.

I do agree that the original posted question was fairly open.., so I'm less stressed on your comment than on of the other postings.
You may want to read the entire thread so far, but I'll repeat a couple of points...

1) Comparing the fraternity culture in the US to that of the Philippines isn't like comparing Apples and Oranges, it more like comparing Apples and Grand Pianos.

2) At the National level, APO Philippines really is trying to get rid of hazing. Doesn't mean they don't have backsliders though and there are still Greek Letter Organizations in the Philippines who still haze like that even with the passing of the Anti-hazing law (which BTW, has heavier penalties than almost all of the US States).

3) APO-USA nationals really doesn't have that much control in that regards of what happens in the Philippines.

[Sen's Revenge]

Originally Posted by justifymylove36

Because I replied to a question posted in an online forum.

But I'm sure you're trying to uncover some hidden bigoted motive on my part, so here goes:

It wasn't hidden.