grades and recruitment

[WestcoastWonder]

Washington State University also tends to let PNM's know ahead of time about GPA issues, but of course, there are girls that their personalities/connections/passion/ or what have you, will get them through. My sister thought that and boy was she wrong. She got invited to 5 houses after the first round, but still.

On the WSU website it clearly says more than once:

All of the fraternal organizations at WSU require a minimum grade point average for men/women to join as a new member. On average, chapters require students have a minimum of a 3.0 cumulative GPA out of high school and a 2.8 cumulative GPA from a transfer college/university.

All of the sororities at WSU have set their GPA requirements for next fall. The range for a cumulative high school GPA is 3.0 – 3.4 and the range for a cumulative college/university GPA is a 2.8 – 3.0. If a PNM has below either grade requirement, the likelihood of her being invited to more than one sorority after the first round is very low and very few exceptions are made.

And its funny because this year a very high number of PNM's were dropped because of grades and were devastated but it was said plenty of times and they were even emailed by their Rho Gammas before recruitment started to let them know that their GPA's were low and to expect cuts.

[RMT2013]

I find this topic very interesting having been a grade risk myself. When I went through recruitment, the minimum GPA was a 2.5 - if you had a 2.5 or higher (irrelevant of higher chapter minimums), you were allowed to go through the first round. Women with lower GPAs would be released before the first round of recruitment (or not allowed to finish signing up). However, it's very likely that (like in my situation - I had a 2.5 as a result of my own neglect to my academics) you will not be asked back to a chapter that has those higher grade requirements NO MATTER WHAT. I was cut from several chapters that I loved/loved me because the fact is that my grades were not where they were supposed to be for a sorority woman.

Recently, my school changed the minimum to be a 2.7. My chapters GPA minimum is higher than that at a 3.0, so girls between the 2.7 and 3.0 are typically dropped after the first or second round. There are, of course, exceptions to this (legacies, certain recs, special circumstances), but those are rare.

To comment on why allow women to go through recruitment with awful GPAs is because (IMO) they want to give those freedoms to the chapters to make the decision overall (via Panhellenic minimums). While my chapter had a minimum of a 3.0, another could easily have one of a 2.5, and that's why Panhellenic set the standard at that. I think the reason why it was increased is because every chapter had a minimum GPA of a 2.7, and wanted to prevent unnecessary sign ups from women who were just going to be cut the first round... And possibly to raise the standard for the overall Panhellenic GPA.

Just my two cents

[AXOmom]

Originally Posted by WestcoastWonder

Washington State University also tends to let PNM's know ahead of time about GPA issues, but of course, there are girls that their personalities/connections/passion/ or what have you, will get them through. My sister thought that and boy was she wrong. She got invited to 5 houses after the first round, but still.

On the WSU website it clearly says more than once:




And its funny because this year a very high number of PNM's were dropped because of grades and were devastated but it was said plenty of times and they were even emailed by their Rho Gammas before recruitment started to let them know that their GPA's were low and to expect cuts.

Could I ask, how do you know the bolded is true? Of course it could be, but how would anyone know why girls were dropped or that the number of girls dropped for grades this year was higher than in years past?

[WestcoastWonder]

Originally Posted by AXOmom

Could I ask, how do you know the bolded is true? Of course it could be, but how would anyone know why girls were dropped or that the number of girls dropped for grades this year was higher than in years past?

My sisters Rho Gam told her. I'm not sure how the numbers were years past, but that's just what she said.

[AXOmom]

Originally Posted by WestcoastWonder

My sisters Rho Gam told her. I'm not sure how the numbers were years past, but that's just what she said.

WestcoastWonder - I don't want to derail this thread too much, but your sister needs to be wary of where her Rho Gam or whoever is giving her all of this information (number of groups not making quota, why girls were dropped, etc,), is getting it. I know a lot of these same rumors/statements (virtually word for word) are on another site that shall remain nameless, and she needs to know that they are just that - gossip and rumors. Her Rho Gam might know how many girls were cut entirely, but she would have no way of knowing why they were cut for sure (she might offer a good guess, but that's all she could do).

[WestcoastWonder]

Originally Posted by AXOmom

WestcoastWonder - I don't want to derail this thread too much, but your sister needs to be wary of where her Rho Gam or whoever is giving her all of this information (number of groups not making quota, why girls were dropped, etc,), is getting it. I know a lot of these same rumors/statements (virtually word for word) are on another site that shall remain nameless, and she needs to know that they are just that - gossip and rumors. Her Rho Gam might know how many girls were cut entirely, but she would have no way of knowing why they were cut for sure (she might offer a good guess, but that's all she could do).

True, and I should be wary as well. If you look through my posts it often sounds like i'm beating a dead horse and constantly bringing up her recruitment, coversations with her Rho Gam and things about grades this year. It's all speculation and hearsay. And the majority of rumors are probably from disgruntled girls that got cut from houses they liked.

I'm not trying to pee on your leg and tell you it's raining, just telling you what I hear.

[Maman]

Originally Posted by WestcoastWonder

I'm not trying to pee on your leg and tell you it's raining, just telling you what I hear.

LOVE IT! Is this regional? It sounds very military.

[WestcoastWonder]

Originally Posted by Maman

LOVE IT! Is this regional? It sounds very military.

Lol i'm not sure, But it's a book by Judge Judy! Good read!

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by WestcoastWonder

True, and I should be wary as well. If you look through my posts it often sounds like i'm beating a dead horse and constantly bringing up her recruitment, coversations with her Rho Gam and things about grades this year. It's all speculation and hearsay. And the majority of rumors are probably from disgruntled girls that got cut from houses they liked.

I'm not trying to pee on your leg and tell you it's raining, just telling you what I hear.

But then, in doing so, you're perpetuating the rumors, hearsay, gossip, etc. We've discussed in other threads the damage being done by alumnae and non-members who are heavily invested in the past and maintaining perceived tiers, etc. In another thread someone made some ridiculous comments about Arizona recruitment. I'm choosing to ignore that, for the time being.

Sororities were founded at a time when to be a woman in a college environment was extremely challenging. The focus on scholarship remains to this day. PNMs with lousy GPAs will likely forever remain PNMs, unless they apply themselves seriously to academics.

Equivocating confirms what we already know. The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

[WestcoastWonder]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

But then, in doing so, you're perpetuating the rumors, hearsay, gossip, etc. We've discussed in other threads the damage being done by alumnae and non-members who are heavily invested in the past and maintaining perceived tiers, etc. In another thread someone made some ridiculous comments about Arizona recruitment. I'm choosing to ignore that, for the time being.

Sororities were founded at a time when to be a woman in a college environment was extremely challenging. The focus on scholarship remains to this day. PNMs with lousy GPAs will likely forever remain PNMs, unless they apply themselves seriously to academics.

Equivocating confirms what we already know. The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

Agreed and understood. Moving on....