Can I Ask This?

[DubaiSis]

Unless there's a meth problem going on (which I doubt), it can't be any more high risk than at any other school. Unfortunately, there will be drinking to excess and other undesirable behavior in all but the absolutely most conservative schools. And it couldn't be hazing problems because if it was well enough known to be KNOWN, then all the nationals there would say screw the success of these chapters and start pulling charters. So my vote is for rumor and innuendo.

I think it was more concern for superstition (the Alpha sorority curse) and girls not being willing to pledge because of that kind of silliness that made the sororities take pause. When Alpha Phi does well, which of course they will, then others will be more willing to take the plunge. Much like I'm sure there are several sororities ready to take the plunge once this recent experiment at Arkansas works itself out.

[WCsweet<3]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

Stuff stuff stuff...(the Alpha sorority curse) ...la la la

Hmmm? What is this?

[Phigirl04]

Originally Posted by WCsweet<3

Hmmm? What is this?

Wondering the same thing!

[SWTXBelle]

Many chapters which folded had names which began with "Alpha".

Of course, many NPC sororities' names begin with "Alpha" - 9/26 - which to the logical mind explains it more than any silly "curse".

[gatordeltapgh]

DubaiSis - I didn't say I agreed with any assessment, but if your people say RM is an issue for them and they make the decisions, then it's an issue for them. I think it is more situation of perception and threshold, not rumor or innuendo.

Do I think that the shenanigans are probably similar across the football conferences? You bet. I also have beloved sisters that will swear up and down that there was no way that the women at their alma mater could ever act in such a way. More than anything it's comical, perception and reality.

Either way, I can't wait to see how things go for Alpha Phi. Their recent efforts around the country are impressive. It's awesome and that's why I love volunteering for NPC.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by gatordeltapgh

It doesn't matter. I remember that comment and its just the adult version of tent talk that is not only damaging, but makes things so much worse for any community. Theta is an awesome org, any campus would be lucky to have them as a guest. The way their leadership makes decisions about expansion is surely part of their larger strategic plan and that's good enough for me.

Thank you. It goes on here at Arizona, unfortunately, as well. Other alumnae and I have noticed negative comments about chapters being made by adults. It is ridiculous. Grow up. Where's the Panhellenic spirit in this type of behavior? We want the PNMs and actives to change, yet we model this type of behavior. OK. I get it.

Originally Posted by gee_ess

Housing is definitely a problem at Arkansas, but there are restrictions in place now with regard to Greek housing. I do not have the specifics, but do know that no new groups will be allowed to live on their own independently owned housing. All must partner with the University. The terms and costs incurred by the new groups are not information I have but I do think it might be somewhat less of a financial burden now. I believe it has changed even since AOP came on campus and built their house. Someone correct me if I am not right.

I did hear when I was at Bid Day, that the Phi Mus have already begun plans to build between AOP and KKG. Not sure about AXO.

The housing concern on campus extends to the old guard as well. Large (heck, GIGANTIC) membership is causing housing strain on all groups. KKG's multi-million dollar renovation/remodel/rebuild is an example of trying to provide the needed facilities for the groups. And KKG owns both their land and their house which means that cost was theirs alone to bear.

Finally, the Theta thing is simply that Theta has been on campus previously and not succeeded. My personal opinion is that they were at Arkansas back in the day when Greek Life just threw you out there with a smile and you had to sink or swim. The help and support that Phi M and AXO seem to be getting from the whole Greek Community is very different from what I saw in the early 80's for Theta. Plus, they were housed on Frat row - disaster. So, no drama or intrigue with them - just a bad run.

I am sooooo hopeful that Arkansas can continue to grow their Greek system. There are so many great women on that campus.

Thank you for your very informative post. Appreciate that it's factual and not perpetuating some decades old misperceptions. Again, we face the same issues at Arizona: HOUSING. But since this is about Arkansas, I won't derail yet another thread.

Maybe I will consider going back to Az. Maybe. Then again, maybe not.