The sorority cost/money/financial thread.

[dukedg]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

My alma mater does something very similar

Every chapter hands out sheet with a table on it with the following cost items :

NM Fee
Badge Cost (most basic)
Initiation fees
Dues (fall)
Dues (Spring)
Room & Board
Live-in requirement (1 or 2 years)
Live-out/parlor fees
Estimated social costs (date parties, etc.) and y or n if they are inclusive.
Fines (indicating if they fined for anything like missed chapter, etc.)
Payment plans offered (y or n)
Optional costs (eg extra tees for events, etc.)
Total costs for 2013-2014

You get one of these sheets at EVERY chapter. By the end of the first day, you know exactly what you're getting into cost-wise.

They were given out at COR as well.

Maybe this sounds ridiculous, but did you all allow them to keep the sheets of paper? This came up our recruitment chairs meeting and at UC Davis they do hand these out, but because you cannot give anything to a PNM, the chapters have to collect them back or be fined. I can't imagine a PNM is really memorizing this data at each party... I would think just putting it in the recruitment booklet would be much better!

[gatordeltapgh]

Originally Posted by dukedg

Maybe this sounds ridiculous, but did you all allow them to keep the sheets of paper? This came up our recruitment chairs meeting and at UC Davis they do hand these out, but because you cannot give anything to a PNM, the chapters have to collect them back or be fined. I can't imagine a PNM is really memorizing this data at each party... I would think just putting it in the recruitment booklet would be much better!

This is where your NPC AA needs to step in say enough is enough and get that out of the recruitment rules. Setting fines for things that aren't measurable is a no-no anyway. Fines because your list was late, sure. Within reason. No $50 per minute craziness. Fines because PNMs need educated about the financial obligations, no way. As you mentioned, the booklet may be the best place anyway.

This is also why NPC recommends publishing ranges so no group is judged as the most or lease expensive. I've found the ranges also prevent the intentional under estimators.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by dukedg

Maybe this sounds ridiculous, but did you all allow them to keep the sheets of paper? This came up our recruitment chairs meeting and at UC Davis they do hand these out, but because you cannot give anything to a PNM, the chapters have to collect them back or be fined. I can't imagine a PNM is really memorizing this data at each party... I would think just putting it in the recruitment booklet would be much better!

They keep them, but it was something we had to have a discussion with our area peeps at NPC about. They decided that it was fine as long as it was the ONLY thing they got to keep, and that it truly is just a plain sheet (e.g. no personal letters, or anything else.) It has been done since before I joined, so I don't know the details of the exact discussion.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

They keep them, but it was something we had to have a discussion with our area peeps at NPC about. They decided that it was fine as long as it was the ONLY thing they got to keep, and that it truly is just a plain sheet (e.g. no personal letters, or anything else.) It has been done since before I joined, so I don't know the details of the exact discussion.

Yeah, this is one of those things like glitter on the shoes. Just make a standard form, hand it out, and stop being petty assholes.

[Old_Row]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Yeah, this is one of those things like glitter on the shoes. Just make a standard form, hand it out, and stop being petty assholes.

OMG I can just hear it! The ABCs put theirs on nicer colored paper with prettier font!

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Yeah, this is one of those things like glitter on the shoes. Just make a standard form, hand it out, and stop being petty assholes.

Yes. That's basically what it is. You can print it on any color paper you want, but the financial info is ALL you can print on it. The PNMs get a little folder that they can put them all in when they leave parties.

We're able to do it because (like you said) we are not being petty and all "omg they taking something from the chapters!!!"

It's important to focus on the spirit of the rule here: Is taking it home infringing on a PNMs right to a fair recruitment? No. Ok then.