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Old 07-20-2013, 02:27 PM
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My brain is trying to wrap my head around this, but why do you need plus and minus lists if each chapter just ranks all of the PNMs top to bottom? One list would show the preferred order of the PNMs. Why make three lists? Invite list, plus and minus lists
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Old 07-20-2013, 03:57 PM
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My brain is trying to wrap my head around this, but why do you need plus and minus lists if each chapter just ranks all of the PNMs top to bottom? One list would show the preferred order of the PNMs. Why make three lists? Invite list, plus and minus lists
I was thinking the same thing. But then there are those schools where the first list (after open house) could be well over 1000 and ranking them 1 to 1,000 would take a very long time. But then again, trying to figure out which girls should be on the "flex minus" and the "flex add" lists must take time as well.

My follow up question is this. Do all chapters get the same initial number for their invite list and then given their specific "flex minus" and "flex add" numbers? Or do the RFM Specialists also set the initial invite numbers as well.

Perhaps another way to look at this is say ABC has a high return rate. In theory, ABC does not need to invite as many PNMs to their party as other chapters. As such, is that initial invite number set lower than those chapters that do not have as good of a return rate? Or is it the same number for each chapter, and then the "minus list" comes into play?

To put some numbers to the example, say ABC - based on their recruiting strength - should only invite 80 PNMs. Do they prepare a list of 100 PNMs (because all chapters do), of which 20 are on the "flex minus" list. The “flex minus” list would be utilized if ABC is recruiting as normal (i.e. good returns). Or is ABC’s invite list initially set at 80. And if they are under performing, then their "flex plus" list would be utilized.

Does any of that make sense?
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Old 07-20-2013, 04:04 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. But then there are those schools where the first list (after open house) could be well over 1000 and ranking them 1 to 1,000 would take a very long time. But then again, trying to figure out which girls should be on the "flex minus" and the "flex add" lists must take time as well.
Wouldn't excel be able to do this relatively quickly? Use different columns for GPA, daily score, rec/no rec, etc. and have excel tally the scores and rank by that tally column.

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I was thinking the same thing. But then there are those schools where the first list (after open house) could be well over 1000 and ranking them 1 to 1,000 would take a very long time. But then again, trying to figure out which girls should be on the "flex minus" and the "flex add" lists must take time as well.

My follow up question is this. Do all chapters get the same initial number for their invite list and then given their specific "flex minus" and "flex add" numbers? Or do the RFM Specialists also set the initial invite numbers as well.

Perhaps another way to look at this is say ABC has a high return rate. In theory, ABC does not need to invite as many PNMs to their party as other chapters. As such, is that initial invite number set lower than those chapters that do not have as good of a return rate? Or is it the same number for each chapter, and then the "minus list" comes into play?

To put some numbers to the example, say ABC - based on their recruiting strength - should only invite 80 PNMs. Do they prepare a list of 100 PNMs (because all chapters do), of which 20 are on the "flex minus" list. The “flex minus” list would be utilized if ABC is recruiting as normal (i.e. good returns). Or is ABC’s invite list initially set at 80. And if they are under performing, then their "flex plus" list would be utilized.

Does any of that make sense?
Every chapter has its own invite number based on previous recruiting strength.

The reason there is a flex plus/flex minus is that the lists for rounds prior to the final bid list do NOT need to be in order, so ranking everyone would indeed take additional time, depending on your MS procedure. For example, if you were allowed to extend 100 invitations, plus/minus 10, and you had 20 legacies, and your group mandates a courtesy invite for legacies, it would be a complete waste of time to try to put the legacies in order.
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Old 07-20-2013, 05:43 PM
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Every chapter has its own invite number based on previous recruiting strength.

The reason there is a flex plus/flex minus is that the lists for rounds prior to the final bid list do NOT need to be in order, so ranking everyone would indeed take additional time, depending on your MS procedure. For example, if you were allowed to extend 100 invitations, plus/minus 10, and you had 20 legacies, and your group mandates a courtesy invite for legacies, it would be a complete waste of time to try to put the legacies in order.
Thanks. This makes sense as well.

As a numbers geek, I usually understand why or how these things work. It is the "why" behind the numbers that I may not always fully grasp.
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