Destination: Recruitment!

[AnchorAlumna]

My answers in red.
I only know a little. Titchou knows all! Until she comes back, here's this:

Originally Posted by TSteven

Are only women who participated in formal recruitment - yet dropped during the process - eligible for snap bids? YES Or can a chapter extend a “snap bid” to a student who didn't sign up for or attend any of the formal recruitment? NO

Also, if a chapter made quota during formal, yet is still under chapter total, are they allowed to extend a “snap bid”? YES - that chapter can bid up to total. They're not snap bids; they're just bids Or would those bids “technically” be a COB bid? No, there are no COB bids during formal recruitment. A chapter under total can bid up to toal - they're just bids. If a chapter reaches total and pledges quota, additional bids would be quota additions. A chapter that reaches quota does not snap bid. I think - not sure though - that quota additions are not done until snap bids are issued.

Bottom line, even though they serve the same purpose – to get a chapter to quota and or to total - is there some sort of specific criteria (restrictions, guidelines on when and how it may be extended) that differentiates a “snap bid” from a “COB bid”? Or are “snap bids” simply the name for a “COB bid” given on bid day?
Does this make sense?

First, a COB bid is made after recruitment has concluded. COB actually begins a week or two after formal recruitment ends.
Quota is set on pref day.
Total is a whole other thing.
The whole idea of quotas and totals is to keep the big, popular chapters from getting bigger and to give the smaller chapters a chance.
Yes, RFM is rendering this concept meaningless, but it's taking a while, and may never totally work. There's also such as thing as getting a bid from your least favorite house and not even showing up for bid day, or resigning soon after.
I've probably already screwed up. I'll let someone else explain.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

My answers in red.
I only know a little. Titchou knows all! Until she comes back, here's this:


First, a COB bid is made after recruitment has concluded. COB actually begins a week or two after formal recruitment ends.
Quota is set on pref day.
Total is a whole other thing.
I've probably already screwed up. I'll let someone else explain.

Strictly - Quota is the number of women that signed a bid card divided by the number of chapters.
It is usually set so that as many women as possible get their first choice and as many chapters a possible get quota.

Quota additions are made before snap bids. Someone that is a quota addition and the chapter (except for maybe Dir. Recruitment with a calculator) will never know who exactly which girls were QA only that the chapter pledged more than quota.

A chapter would usually only make a snap bid if they did not get quota. If they made quota but not total - it is usually better to wait and COB (after emotions have died down.) If they were below total even after QAs - a chapter MIGHT choose to try to snap bid, but this would usually be only to get a legacy or someone known to the chapter that had to drop out of recruitment for something like a death in the family or a major illness.

By the RFM agreements - total is recommended to be adjusted to be the average chapter size after formal recruitment. This happens about 2-3 weeks after formal recruitment is over. That way at any given time - roughly 40-50% of chapters would be below total and then would have the option of pursuing women for COB.

[AnchorAlumna]

Thank you, HQWest!!

[Missouri Ivy]

Originally Posted by HQWest

Strictly -
By the RFM agreements - total is recommended to be adjusted to be the average chapter size after formal recruitment. This happens about 2-3 weeks after formal recruitment is over. That way at any given time - roughly 40-50% of chapters would be below total and then would have the option of pursuing women for COB.

Is this in part to remove some of the stigma of chapters having to COB at some schools, while giving mid-size to smaller chapters an opportunity to catch up over several years? (Not saying anything is wrong with COB. I was a COB, and grateful to enjoy an extra semester instead of waiting for formal recruitment. But some groups definitely looked down their noses at chapters that COBed on my campus.)

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by Missouri Ivy

Is this in part to remove some of the stigma of chapters having to COB at some schools, while giving mid-size to smaller chapters an opportunity to catch up over several years? (Not saying anything is wrong with COB. I was a COB, and grateful to enjoy an extra semester instead of waiting for formal recruitment. But some groups definitely looked down their noses at chapters that COBed on my campus.)

Actually - I believe the rationale is to place as many women that may be interested in Greek Life as possible in chapters, and to allow smaller chapters to catch up.

I think some schools are more cautious with how much they raise total, because they want to be sure that they are retaining members.

[Pi29]

I'm making the assumption that England was ADPI, but what was Spain??

[carolinasister]

I didn't realize I had started a discussion on snap bidding! I knew a few girls from freshman year who had dropped out of recruitment even only after the second round and then reappeared on bid day with bid in hand to groups who had dropped them originally. Being the naive girl I was towards some of the aspects of recruitment, I had assumed it was the norm which is why I had considered dropping. Obviously, I'm glad I didn't do that!

Originally Posted by Pi29

I'm making the assumption that England was ADPI, but what was Spain??

Sorry, but I would rather not say as I know a lot of these GreekChat ladies are quite adept code-breakers. That's to say if they haven't figured it out already!

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

My answers in red.
COB actually begins a week or two after formal recruitment ends.
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This is not true everywhere. I can say with certainty that there were numerous bids given out by my chapter and others late on bid night, after all was said and done. Women who SIP'ed or dropped out prior to pref would see everyone running to their chapters and feel left out and reconsider, and it was really common for those with an existing or new (e.g. roommmate just pledged) connection to a chapter to be scooped up that very same night.

When I think about it, I guess the difference between a snap and a COB is that the snaps are issued PRIOR to bid distribution, and COB after, but I think it's splitting hairs, especially when I recall that we were allowed to issue women who hadn't participated in recruitment bids the morning of bid day.