Paula Deen's use of the "N"-Word

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I really doubt UVA17 is Tom, and last I checked, UVA wasn't banned.

No, but ibis is Tom.

He/she may have decided against posting considering the thinly veiled threats to out him/her and ruin his/her rush prospects. I really gotta hand it to some here, threatening young people like that because you disagree with them on the internet. Classy.

FWIW, I didn't read any posts as threatening to ruin her rush prospects (which I agree has happened here in the past). I read the posts as warning her that she wasn't as anonymous as she might think and that she might be hurting her chances herself. That was certainly the motivation behind my post.

[Kevin]

I didn't even see ibis... I guess they were deleted? I understand why Tom was banned in the first place, but considering what happened occurred a number of years ago and the guy is still a pretty influential and well known member of a major national fraternity, I wouldn't mind seeing him back. I doubt we'd see a repeat of the OTW or HPRL incidents.

As far as what you said, I don't think you were making any sort of veiled threat, but this:

I am going to give you a very good piece of advice. I would strongly suggest you dial back the insults - as a pnm who has already posted identifying information on this site you really don't want to run the risk of insulting long-time GreekChatters who 1.) have mad detective skills and 2.) have contacts like you wouldn't believe. You would not be the first pnm to think she was unidentifiable and "bulletproof" to be left wondering why her recruitment came to a crashing halt on the day she was dropped by all the chapters.

That looked to me like a threat. For PNMs or others who come here to discuss things, we ought to not be so quick to threaten or even allow these sorts of threats. Although, I'd be interested to know the process one would undertake to figure out what sort of real name belongs to a rando on the internet named UVA17.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I didn't even see ibis... I guess they were deleted? I understand why Tom was banned in the first place, but considering what happened occurred a number of years ago and the guy is still a pretty influential and well known member of a major national fraternity, I wouldn't mind seeing him back. I doubt we'd see a repeat of the OTW or HPRL incidents.

The ibis post is still there. He's been around under that name for a while, but he doesn't post often.

That looked to me like a threat. For PNMs or others who come here to discuss things, we ought to not be so quick to threaten or even allow these sorts of threats. Although, I'd be interested to know the process one would undertake to figure out what sort of real name belongs to a rando on the internet named UVA17.

Fair enough, though I didn't read it that way. As far as figuring out who she might be, though, she gave her name (not a common one) in her intro post, and she had the town she's from as her location. Assuming both were accurate, and assuming her username indicates UVa Class of '17, it wouldn't be that hard to ID her at ZUVa, I don't think.

[SWTXBelle]

I wrote it - not a threat but as I clearly said, advice. Calling sorority alumnae "menopausal shrews", amongst other things, is just not a good idea. It's hardly, what's the word, Kevin, "classy". I am not a GC detective, but I know plenty on this site who are, and I know of at least 3 cases where recruitments were negatively impacted. A threat would have been "I AM GOING TO RUIN YOUR RECRUITMENT". I made her aware of possible consequences of her very negative postings. I may well have saved her disrespectful derriere. She had posted enough information (perhaps she's deleted it now) that even incompetent GC detective that I am I could have figured out how many pnms from her hometown with her name were going through recruitment at UVA - I wouldn't be surprised if she was the only one. I'd hope my GC on-line presence is such that you would realize I am all about pnms having successful recruitments.

[Kevin]

I'm sure that's what you intended and I know what you're about, but surely you can see where your ordinary PNM might perceive it as a threat.

[SWTXBelle]

I'd hope an ordinary PNM would have enough common sense not to start insulting members of the groups she hopes to join!

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I'd hope an ordinary PNM would have enough common sense not to start insulting members of the groups she hopes to join!

Yep. The warnings/advice/threats/whatever didn't come because people disagreed with her. They came because of her rudeness towards people with whom she disagreed.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by UVA17

Wow, sucks to be some of you! All that bitterness must sting

Originally Posted by UVA17

Wow, Dr. Phil. No offense, but you are one angry black person. Do you live in a place where you never have to run into white people? Or do you manage to swallow your hatred long enough to interact with them? Just askin.

Originally Posted by UVA17

I see that you're typing a reply. What's taking so long? Googling American history? Thumbing through your thesaurus? lol

Originally Posted by UVA17

I'm sorry, did I offend your delicate sensibilities, agzg? I guess I'm just expected to shut up and tow the party line. But I'll keep talking as long as you ridiculous fools keep bellyaching (or until I get bored, whichever comes first)

Originally Posted by UVA17

I'm not a troll. You're just not used to people not jumping all over themselves apologizing for their alleged privilege. You'll get used to it. OR you could just ignore me, you know.

As for you Phil, your non-answer speaks volumes. And maybe someday I too can breathe the rarified air of an 11,000+ poster. I dare to dream

BTW, what line of work are you two in that you can sit at the computer all day attempting to trade barbs with an 18 year old? Is the Winn-Dixie that generous with its breaks?

This is kind of fun! Your turn

Originally Posted by UVA17

LOL, you're not "feeding" me because you think I'm, as you put it, "fun". I obviously got under your skin or you wouldn't bother answering me. Just like I know you or your partners in persecution won't be able to resist replying or attempting to "put me in my place"

You are so pissed off at your life and your circumstances; so FREAKING glad I'm not you. It'd be funny if it weren't so sad. No, wait, it IS funny!

Originally Posted by UVA17

Phil talks, and this is what the rest of us hear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJyfozezSpI

Originally Posted by UVA17

Oh Phil, Phil, Phil. You are such a closed-minded dolt. I'm making assumptions about your race? Maybe you're making assumptions about mine. But that can't be right, can it? Because anyone who doesn't tow the Official Persecuted Blacks has to be Miss Lily White 2013.

Maybe some people are just reared to work hard and succeed instead of rolling over and playing persecuted.

The Damon Wayans clip is comedy gold; if you honestly can't see yourself in it then you are deluded.

Still, I'm flattered that I'm on your mind

Originally Posted by UVA17

Ah yes, calling attention to a typo. Last bastion of those who really don't have anything else to say.

Andrew Hacker? Already read it. Typical white apologist dribble. Am I supposed to listen to him on the basis of his whiteness? Hack, indeed

Originally Posted by UVA17

That's the beauty of being able to pass for either when the mood strikes. And there are no doubt still books that could be written on what you don't know as a menopausal shrew.

Kevin, UVA17 didn't DISAGREE with board members; she just came out swinging with insults. She never made one coherent statement or took any position other than to insult and call names. I made a couple of comments (as did a few other GCers) to remind her that the internet is not as anonymous a place as an 18 year old might think. I certainly wouldn't interfere negatively with someone's recruitment. I think I've even gone on record somewhere her on GC that I wouldn't no rec a girl unless she was a felon or the like.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Kevin, UVA17 didn't DISAGREE with board members; she just came out swinging with insults. She never made one coherent statement or took any position other than to insult and call names. I made a couple of comments (as did a few other GCers) to remind her that the internet is not as anonymous a place as an 18 year old might think. I certainly wouldn't interfere negatively with someone's recruitment. I think I've even gone on record somewhere her on GC that I wouldn't no rec a girl unless she was a felon or the like.

I completely agree with you. Sometimes what people call "thinly veiled threats" are warnings to wake up a PNM before she screws herself up. She can take it as a threat all she wants. We aren't the ones she should be afraid of...it's people from her school that may be lurking. She isn't the first and won't be the last PNM with Internet bravado to think that the anonymity of a username would protect her from bad behavior on the Internet. We hate to see people have bad outcomes even if it's because of their own doing. The people warning this PNM aren't the type of people that go running to hunt down PNMs, but we've all seen it happen and would like to stop it before it gets to that point.

[ASTalumna06]

Alleged plot to extort Paula Deen exposed:

http://www.today.com/food/alleged-pl...est-6C10551940

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Kevin, UVA17 didn't DISAGREE with board members; she just came out swinging with insults. She never made one coherent statement or took any position other than to insult and call names. I made a couple of comments (as did a few other GCers) to remind her that the internet is not as anonymous a place as an 18 year old might think. I certainly wouldn't interfere negatively with someone's recruitment. I think I've even gone on record somewhere her on GC that I wouldn't no rec a girl unless she was a felon or the like.

I cannot believe that there is any possibility that UVA17 is really a PNM. "She" doesn't write or express herself like any teenager that I have ever come into contact with. "She" has revealed way, way, way too much personal information for any of it to be real. This person is clearly an adult, and one that I think has been on GC for quite a while.

[DrPhil]

Paula Deen is getting her ass kicked, some of it fairly and some of it unfairly.

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I thought something seemed non-teen and non-PNM about certain things UVA17 typed. And it is way too GC Race War Cliche' for a self-proclaimed biracial PNM who can pass for (insert race) to come here acting silly.

I just hope that other biracial PNM (what's the username?) who started a thread about wanting to fit in isn't also a sockpuppet. That other PNM seems cool.

[StealthMode]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I'd hope an ordinary PNM would have enough common sense not to start insulting members of the groups she hopes to join!

You do know this is GC, right?

[DubaiSis]

We have to get a like button for this site.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by thetalady

I cannot believe that there is any possibility that UVA17 is really a PNM. "She" doesn't write or express herself like any teenager that I have ever come into contact with. "She" has revealed way, way, way too much personal information for any of it to be real. This person is clearly an adult, and one that I think has been on GC for quite a while.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I thought something seemed non-teen and non-PNM about certain things UVA17 typed. And it is way too GC Race War Cliche' for a self-proclaimed biracial PNM who can pass for (insert race) to come here acting silly.

I've had the same suspicions. But the fact that she registered and asked the ribboning question months ago seemed to suggest maybe she's for real. I dunno.

I just hope that other biracial PNM (what's the username?) who started a thread about wanting to fit in isn't also a sockpuppet. That other PNM seems cool.

I don't get a sock puppet vibe from her.