Kidnapping length and charges.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by naraht

Well, unfortunately, the issue of whether Murder can be charged for the violent forced miscarriages has already gotten pulled into the abortion debate.

I hope they are careful with the murder charge. I think it'd be smart for the prosecutors to put it in their back pocket and use it as an insurance policy. In other words, if they don't get enough at trial to make sure this animal never sees the light of day, they can then go ahead and prosecute the murder charges and see if they'll stick.

There's more than enough to accomplish justice here without an unnecessary sideshow and an emotional abortion debate which could really make it hard to pick a fair jury.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I hope they are careful with the murder charge. I think it'd be smart for the prosecutors to put it in their back pocket and use it as an insurance policy. In other words, if they don't get enough at trial to make sure this animal never sees the light of day, they can then go ahead and prosecute the murder charges and see if they'll stick.

There's more than enough to accomplish justice here without an unnecessary sideshow and an emotional abortion debate which could really make it hard to pick a fair jury.

The question on whether to use them may depend on whether they want this guy put to death or not. I'm not sure they can without bringing in the Murder/Forced Miscarriages/etc charge...

I almost wonder whether the rape charges can stick as well, it isn't like the cops will be able to present the standard evidence from a rape kit and after all of these years, I wonder whether any of the women will be able to say that "I was raped on March 22nd, 24th and 25th, 2008". (http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2907.02)

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by naraht

The question on whether to use them may depend on whether they want this guy put to death or not. I'm not sure they can without bringing in the Murder/Forced Miscarriages/etc charge...

I almost wonder whether the rape charges can stick as well, it isn't like the cops will be able to present the standard evidence from a rape kit and after all of these years, I wonder whether any of the women will be able to say that "I was raped on March 22nd, 24th and 25th, 2008". (http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2907.02)

I understand there's a living child who was conceived while one of the moms was in captivity. Assuming the DNA from the child matches (which can be looked at through your garden variety DNA paternity test), first, if mom was underage (for Ohio) at conception, she was incapable of consent. Second, if she's being held against her will, I'm not going to research it, but I'm guessing in Ohio, she's also not capable of giving consent. If she's not capable of consent and someone gets her pregnant, that's rape.