Sorority Rush is the Most Important Unimportant Thing Ever

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

No, a PNM at Bama doesn't need to engage the Rushbiddies.

But obviously some do!

And ADPiEE, A & M is now in the SEC. And Texas recruitment is about as bad as Alabama, Ole Miss, etc!

[ADPiEE]

Originally Posted by Titchou

But obviously some do!

And ADPiEE, A & M is now in the SEC. And Texas recruitment is about as bad as Alabama, Ole Miss, etc!

This is true but I didn't go to UT or A&M so I feel out of the loop with really competitive recruitments

[pinapple]

I agree that if you were raised with proper social etiquette and generally good manners that you will do fine in any recruitment process without the aid of a rushbiddy or counselor. I think the issue here is that many, many girls that go through recruitment today are remarkably unrefined and maybe it is that group of women that need these "experts" the most. I think the people that hire them that are striving to only increase their odds of a "top" house are wasting their money. Top house selection does not come in the form of a stamp of approval from a rushbiddy. It typically comes from deep and well established family connections, camp connections and the list goes on. It is not something that can be bought.

[Old_Row]

Originally Posted by pinapple

I agree that if you were raised with proper social etiquette and generally good manners that you will do fine in any recruitment process without the aid of a rushbiddy or counselor. I think the issue here is that many, many girls that go through recruitment today are remarkably unrefined and maybe it is that group of women that need these "experts" the most. I think the people that hire them that are striving to only increase their odds of a "top" house are wasting their money. Top house selection does not come in the form of a stamp of approval from a rushbiddy. It typically comes from deep and well established family connections, camp connections and the list goes on. It is not something that can be bought.

I agree! I think that the PNMs who resort to these kinds of things because they or their mommas think it will get them into a certain chapter almost always end up seeming unauthentic and stiff. Even if they are a perfect rushbiddy student and do everything they say perfectly, it won't ever get them the kinds of connections that will get them in. I think it's much smarter to be the most polished version of your true self that you can be and end up where you will be comfortable and happy for the next four years.

[ADPiEE]

Originally Posted by pinapple

. I think the people that hire them that are striving to only increase their odds of a "top" house are wasting their money. Top house selection does not come in the form of a stamp of approval from a rushbiddy. It typically comes from deep and well established family connections, camp connections and the list goes on. It is not something that can be bought.

Exactly. I don't know what rushbiddies advertise but IF they advertise that they can increase someone's chances of getting into a particular house, I feel like that would be taking advantage of people who don't know how the process works.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by Titchou

But obviously some do!

I looked at the Rushbiddies site, and you are right. The viewable guestbook is apparently used for workshop sign-up, and I recognized several names there of girls whose moms are chapter alums from Bama. These are also girls who attended high schools that would be considered rush-savvy.

I figured these workshops would be more appealing to girls and moms who are not familiar with recruitment at Bama, but I guess these may have a wider appeal. I couldn't determine the cost of the general workshops. I didn't see any advertisement pertaining to increasing one's chances in any category or "tier" of chapters (thankfully).

I don't think signing up on the viewable guestbook with your name, location, and email is an especially good idea.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

II don't think signing up on the viewable guestbook with your name, location, and email is an especially good idea.

Yep. Kinda like using your credit card at the head shop.

On a tangent:

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

These are also girls who attended high schools that would be considered rush-savvy.

Are we talking public or private schools? Or do you just mean the neighborhoods? I'm not trying to snark at all, just curious. The more I hear about HS systems in other states the more different ours seems to be.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by 33girl

On a tangent:

Are we talking public or private schools? Or do you just mean the neighborhoods? I'm not trying to snark at all, just curious. The more I hear about HS systems in other states the more different ours seems to be.

Two of the girls I recognized attended public high school (the ones whose moms were Bama alums). Another attended a large private school -- her mom was not Greek. I saw both public and private schools mentioned in the guest book.

Here, in some places, the neighborhood may be much the same as the high school, since the community is its own city entity and operates its own school district. There is only one high school in some of these communities, though it may be large.

[pinapple]

Ok...big town...slow night. Finals week at UT, but seriously...has anyone taken 5 minutes to read that guest book? What is the world is this about?

<an entry from the Rushbiddies Guest Book>

Hello, my name is XXXXXXX XXXXXXX and I am senior in high school. I am in the process of applying to colleges, and I KNOW that I will rush a sorority at the one I end up going to. I am a hyper-competitive person, and it is of the utmost important to my Mother and me that I get into a top-tier house. She was an AXO at SMU, so she did pretty well for herself. Just saying. As you can see it is very important to me to join a GOOD sorority. I feel like by attending one of your workshops, I can have a competitive edge going into rush. Please respond to my request so we can discuss the workshop that is tailor-made for my situation. I look forward to your response! Toodles, XXXXXXX XXXXXXX

I know Rushbiddies might not advertise that they are prepping girls for top houses, but who goes to these workshops hoping for a bottom tier house? IMO they are simply trying to sell something that can't be bought. And who signs anything Toodles? Can you imagine getting a letter of introductions from someone signed "toddles"? It would end up on the back of the bathroom stall doors.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by pinapple

I know Rushbiddies might not advertise that they are prepping girls for top houses, but who goes to these workshops hoping for a bottom tier house? IMO they are simply trying to sell something that can't be bought. And who signs anything Toodles? Can you imagine getting a letter of introductions from someone signed "toddles"? It would end up on the back of the bathroom stall doors.

Dying of laughter over here, but that's so true about the bathroom stalls!

I'm trying to imagine a contract that promises a bid from a top-tier sorority, haha.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by pinapple

Ok...big town...slow night. Finals week at UT, but seriously...has anyone taken 5 minutes to read that guest book? What is the world is this about?

<an entry from the Rushbiddies Guest Book>

I know Rushbiddies might not advertise that they are prepping girls for top houses, but who goes to these workshops hoping for a bottom tier house? IMO they are simply trying to sell something that can't be bought. And who signs anything Toodles? Can you imagine getting a letter of introductions from someone signed "toddles"? It would end up on the back of the bathroom stall doors.

That entry really is cringe-worthy!

To be fair, I guess we shouldn't be surprised that a recruitment coaching business has found a market. Considering the hype surrounding large recruitments like those in the SEC, for instance, some people may feel that they need consultation. Imagine being an OOS PNM or mom from an area where large competitive recruitments seem alien.

I figure a lot of what may seem business-as-usual to those of us posting about SEC recruitments probably seems cringe-worthy and waaay over the top to most people anyway. Including other Greeks!

[carnation]

Who feels, as I do, that that PNM will be referred to as "Toodles" during recruitment?