Lambda Theta Phi Latin Fraternity, Inc.

[E.Ortiz]

Again there is no proof brought to the table with any constitutional evidence that any prior organization was founded as a Latin fraternity. Yes there could have been members of latin origin as members in a fraternity but that does not make it a latin fraternity. The organization may have been a honor society, music club etc...with greek letters. Further more when your organization dies all of your history dies along with it. Any refounding can not legitimately claim lineage except the coincidence of the letters. Also if a founding date of 1931 how come there is such a big gap 1984 of second chapter that is now the Alpha chapter... doesn't make sense in the greek system.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by E.Ortiz

Again there is no proof brought to the table with any constitutional evidence that any prior organization was founded as a Latin fraternity. Yes there could have been members of latin origin as members in a fraternity but that does not make it a latin fraternity. The organization may have been a honor society, music club etc...with greek letters.

From the 1920 edition of Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities:

Further more when your organization dies all of your history dies along with it. Any refounding can not legitimately claim lineage except the coincidence of the letters. Also if a founding date of 1931 how come there is such a big gap 1984 of second chapter that is now the Alpha chapter... doesn't make sense in the greek system.

History does not die, and this is all irrelevant to the claim you made:

Originally Posted by LambdaPapi

Lambda Theta Phi Latin Fraternity, Inc. was founded on December 1, 1975 at Kean University in Union, New Jersey. We are the FIRST Latin fraternity in the nation. . . .

If any Latino fraternity was founded prior to December 1, 1975, then regardless of whether that fraternity later died out or not, it was founded before Lambda Theta Pi was, which clearly negates a claim that Lambda Theta Pi was "first." "First" =/= "oldest in continual existence."

[E.Ortiz]

yes the sigma iota was an organization or fraternity of spanish american students but was it a Latin fraternity by definition of its ideals, name, constitution? No one will ever know because it DIED. Regardless Lambda Theta Phi is the First Latin Fraternity and the First to start the current movement known as LGLO's (Latino Greek Letter Organizations). All Latin orgs (except for obviously Phi Iota Alpha) recognized Lambda Theta Phi as the First Latin Fraternity. Since 1975 with a true history and no gaps or questions. Latin from the beginning.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by E.Ortiz

yes the sigma iota was an organization or fraternity of spanish american students but was it a Latin fraternity by definition of its ideals, name, constitution? No one will ever know because it DIED.

Since when does the fact that an organization no longer exists mean that nothing can be known about it?

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally Posted by E.Ortiz

All Latin orgs (except for obviously Phi Iota Alpha) recognized Lambda Theta Phi as the First Latin Fraternity

How is it that you can speak for all LGLOs now?

Your posts are disappointing. You can uplift your organization through doing actual WORK instead of bashing another. Or did that concept not reach you during your process?

[E.Ortiz]

I have and continue to do various community services to uplift latino's and other minorities in the community. You will never know the process my brotherhood has so you cannot make assumptions on that level. This is a forum of greek chat and if you dont like you may choose to disregard the posts. Unless you have something to add to this thread keep it moving. Lambda Theta Phi breaking molds and barriers so your organization can exist since 1975.