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Old 02-20-2013, 07:09 PM
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UCF's student newspaper blames "six incidents regarding hazing and 15 alcohol-related cases, several of which involved new members" in the past years, and two recent incidents involving fraternities and underage drinking/hazing.

I still don't quite see how a campus wide ban on everything outside of chapter and wearing letters is productive for organizations who do follow the rules. If anything, it just makes abiding GLOs more bitter--like when you were in elementary school and the teacher punished the whole class just because a few stupid kids threw spitwads
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:15 PM
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UCF's student newspaper blames "six incidents regarding hazing and 15 alcohol-related cases, several of which involved new members" in the past years, and two recent incidents involving fraternities and underage drinking/hazing.

I still don't quite see how a campus wide ban on everything outside of chapter and wearing letters is productive for organizations who do follow the rules. If anything, it just makes abiding GLOs more bitter--like when you were in elementary school and the teacher punished the whole class just because a few stupid kids threw spitwads
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:40 PM
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I still don't quite see how a campus wide ban on everything outside of chapter and wearing letters is productive for organizations who do follow the rules. If anything, it just makes abiding GLOs more bitter--like when you were in elementary school and the teacher punished the whole class just because a few stupid kids threw spitwads
If the article is to be believed, at least some students, presumably in chapters that have kept their noses clean (though it doesn't come out and say that) have told the school the restrictions are needed to change the "Greek culture" on campus:
Recent events have demonstrated that UCF’s Greek community needs a culture change, specifically when it comes to issues related to alcohol use and abuse and hazing. Even some student leaders have expressed to us that an action that impacts our entire Greek community would be the best way to change our culture.

Many Greek chapters and students exhibit model behavior, and we hope they will share best practices with each other and hold their peers responsible for acting appropriately. This is an opportunity to be part of the solution.
That could just be school spin, though.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:10 PM
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If the article is to be believed, at least some students, presumably in chapters that have kept their noses clean (though it doesn't come out and say that) have told the school the restrictions are needed to change the "Greek culture" on campus:
Recent events have demonstrated that UCF’s Greek community needs a culture change, specifically when it comes to issues related to alcohol use and abuse and hazing. Even some student leaders have expressed to us that an action that impacts our entire Greek community would be the best way to change our culture.

Many Greek chapters and students exhibit model behavior, and we hope they will share best practices with each other and hold their peers responsible for acting appropriately. This is an opportunity to be part of the solution.
That could just be school spin, though.
I read that quite a few times, trying to interpret what that meant. They didn't say Greek student leaders expressed that. They said "student leaders". That could be student government, other organizations, etc.

We've had discussions before about public vs. private universities and their ability to restrict the right to assemble. It seemed like, during previous discussions, the private schools could do what they wanted but the public ones couldn't really control this legally. Am I remembering that correctly?

I'm curious whether chapters were given specific directives on HOW they show that the culture has changed. The article doesn't say how they are supposed to do it.

Using the "peer pressure to make each other behave" philosophy can really backfire too. The only thing the other greek groups can really do is agree to not socialize with the groups engaging in the risky behaviors. They can't pull charters or suspend members for other groups. They have very little control of each other. And some of them may say "We might as well do what THEY do if we're going to get punished for it anyway."
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