Gun rights

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by adpimiz

Going on a shooting rampage isn't normal. There was someone wrong with Adam Lanza - whether it would be characterized as mental illness, I'm not sure - and he was not right in the head.

That does not mean he had a treatable, definable mental illness that any legislation would do anything about. Criminals do a lot of mean, hateful things. We don't chalk that up to mental illness. People do awful things because they do things at the spur of the moment without thinking about the consequences or because they are selfish and don't care about others. They may lack empathy. That's still not mental illness. It's not because they are schizophrenic or some other diagnosis of mental illness. There is no pill to give them or talk therapy to keep them from doing what they do. You don't have to be "crazy" to kill.

[peppermint23]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

That does not mean he had a treatable, definable mental illness that any legislation would do anything about. Criminals do a lot of mean, hateful things. We don't chalk that up to mental illness. People do awful things because they do things at the spur of the moment without thinking about the consequences or because they are selfish and don't care about others. They may lack empathy. That's still not mental illness. It's not because they are schizophrenic or some other diagnosis of mental illness. There is no pill to give them or talk therapy to keep them from doing what they do. You don't have to be "crazy" to kill.

That's definitely true.

Another disturbing trend I noticed and several other people I spoke to noted is that in mass shootings, more women and girls tend to be killed than men. :/ The shooter is usually male...make what you will of it We know that women are more likely to be the victims of violence in general, but I found this to be equally disturbing.

Also interesting, in a country where gun control is very strict - China - many children were injured in the recent stabbing, but none were killed.

I don't know the solution. I just know that I hate guns and it scares me to know how easily accessible they are to obtain in some states.

[adpimiz]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

That does not mean he had a treatable, definable mental illness that any legislation would do anything about. Criminals do a lot of mean, hateful things. We don't chalk that up to mental illness. People do awful things because they do things at the spur of the moment without thinking about the consequences or because they are selfish and don't care about others. They may lack empathy. That's still not mental illness. It's not because they are schizophrenic or some other diagnosis of mental illness. There is no pill to give them or talk therapy to keep them from doing what they do. You don't have to be "crazy" to kill.

There is a big difference between shooting your husband in a spur of the moment fit of rage because you found out he had an affair (just an example), and spending several months, maybe even years, planning a mass massacre.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by adpimiz

There is a big difference between shooting your husband in a spur of the moment fit of rage because you found out he had an affair (just an example), and spending several months, maybe even years, planning a mass massacre.

So it's impossible for someone to go on a rampage at the office (for example) when s/he's lost a job?

I don't think it's as black-and-white as your example is trying to suggest.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by adpimiz

There is a big difference between shooting your husband in a spur of the moment fit of rage because you found out he had an affair (just an example), and spending several months, maybe even years, planning a mass massacre.

I hate to Godwin a thread, but it's apt. The genocides in Germany, Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia, Syria were/are all carried out by completely sane, power hungry men. We don't give them a pass for their carnage because of mental illness. I think the amount of gruesome death far surpasses any of the mass shootings we'd discuss on this thread, but every bit was due to what humans term "evil." You can't decide everything is because of mental illness because you can't imagine a sane person doing it. Sane people do HORRIBLE things every single day, like abusing children, raping women, murdering each other, etc. The mentally ill are not the cause of all this anguish.

[Elephant Walk]

The Obama administration has murdered many more children than Adam Lanza did. The administration should look into gun control for itself first.

[als463]

I think banning things is great. I work as an addictions therapist and I so glad that heroin is banned. Good thing for that, otherwise people might some how get their hands on drugs.

[badgeguy]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

The Obama administration has murdered many more children than Adam Lanza did. The administration should look into gun control for itself first.

Just wondering, what the context of this? To what are you referring to?

Thanks

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by badgeguy

Just wondering, what the context of this? To what are you referring to?

Thanks

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert...b_2224627.html

"During my recent trip to Pakistan as part of our upcoming documentary film, Drones Exposed, I was struck most by the stories told to me by children who had experienced a U.S. drone strike firsthand. The impact of America’s drone war in the likes of Pakistan and Yemen will linger on, especially for the loved ones of the 178 children killed in those countries by U.S. drone strikes."

I'm not going to give my guns up in a country where the government has such a penchant for violence. Lets get rid of their weapons first and then we'll talk about mine.

[I Phi 1963]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I'm not going to give my guns up in a country where the government has such a penchant for violence. Lets get rid of their weapons first and then we'll talk about mine.

This doesn't make any sense dude. If we get rid of the country's weapons, how do you expect the country to defend itself from other countries?