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Old 01-18-2013, 08:05 PM
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^ Self-defense. That's all I'm going to say on that topic.

Personally, I'm not totally against an assault-weapons ban. What really irks me is the way that the media promotes their own agenda and refuses to discuss any other solutions to help end violence other than gun control. Mental illness needs to be discussed as much, if not more, than gun control.
Self-defense against what, though? If it's against other guns, that doesn't alleviate the violence in situations. :/
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:36 PM
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Self-defense against what, though? If it's against other guns, that doesn't alleviate the violence in situations. :/
Because a complete gun ban would never work. Criminals would obtain guns illegally, and law-abiding citizens would have no way to defend themselves against a psycho breaking down their door in the middle of the night (just as an example).

EDIT: I think I read your question wrong. I thought you were suggesting that no citizens own a gun (maybe you were?), and that was my response.

Yes, self-defense against criminals with guns. DGTess said it much better than I could, so I'll just refer to her response. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, and police could be several minutes away.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:03 PM
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Self-defense against what, though? If it's against other guns, that doesn't alleviate the violence in situations. :/
Self defense against those that try to harm me. In Dec of 2011 I was attacked by a family member with a knife. He stabbed me 9 times. One of those cuts was to my jugular vain (not artery) and was bleeding internally for 2 day before the doctors found it during surgery to repair the nerve on my face. As you can imagine I was in fear for my life from someone that did not have a gun but a knife. My husband has a 9 mm that was always put away. I did not have an issue with guns then; it was never my thing. After the attack mu husband's 9 mm is always with me at home. If I would have had the gun closer to me that night I'm sure that I would not have had as many injuries or my sister would not have gotten hurt.

That night completely changed my life and I am all for the right to own any kind of gun. The laws that the government is pushing are going to fail. Look at Mexico. Guns are illegal but yet they have a high rate of gun violence. Look at the war on drugs. MAJOR FAIL. Look at Prohabition. FAIL.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:26 PM
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Look at Mexico. Guns are illegal but yet they have a high rate of gun violence.
Private ownership of guns and the ability to possess them outside the home are unquestionably more restricted in Mexico than in the US, but guns are not illegal in Mexico.

And, of course, most of the illegal guns in Mexico come from the US.

Another example, I think, of how it's just not as simple as pointing to countries with strict gun control laws and policies or lax ones and drawing direct correlations to gun violence. There are too many other factors involved.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:10 PM
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The laws that the government is pushing are going to fail. Look at Mexico. Guns are illegal but yet they have a high rate of gun violence. Look at the war on drugs. MAJOR FAIL. Look at Prohabition. FAIL.
Look at England. Guns are illegal and even most cops don't carry because they don't have to. War on Drugs, the drugs are imported. Same thing with booze during prohibition. I don't support a firearm ban personally, but I don't think it is doomed to fail.
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