Senate Fiscal Cliff Bill Approved by House

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I'd also like to add that most of these "social programs" for the middle and upper class are actually designed to benefit the government in the long run in terms of spurring economic growth and generating higher tax revenues. It's very beneficial for the government to get people owning homes and paying property taxes as well as getting educations and earning higher taxable income than just minimum wage.

And "social programs" for the working poor are also meant to benefit the government/country. If the working poor have no way to make ends meet, what do you think is going to happen?

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

And "social programs" for the working poor are also meant to benefit the government/country. If the working poor have no way to make ends meet, what do you think is going to happen?

They go on welfare? IF the poor can't make ends meet, there are multiple programs available to them such as Sec 8 housing, SNAP, utility, and tax credits. I don't agree with the notion that a employer provided 401k is a gov benefit no different than food stamps or cash welfare assistance. I don't see your point there.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

They go on welfare? IF the poor can't make ends meet, there are multiple programs available to them such as Sec 8 housing, SNAP, utility, and tax credits. I don't agree with the notion that a employer provided 401k is a gov benefit no different than food stamps or cash welfare assistance. I don't see your point there.

Sorry, my question is what happens if there is no welfare. Do you want to live in a city where people have no legal means of feeding themselves? Because I don't.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Sorry, my question is what happens if there is no welfare. Do you want to live in a city where people have no legal means of feeding themselves? Because I don't.

I'm not saying that I want a system that depends exclusively on private charity, but a city without government welfare isn't necessarily a city where people have no means of feeding themselves.

I agree with the point that most "entitlements" deliver social benefits beyond the recipient.