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Old 12-04-2012, 12:10 PM
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So, two questions...

Why will Camilla be a Princess Consort instead of a Queen Consort?

When QEII passes and William & Kate's children become princes & princesses, will Kate become a princess as well? Or does she need that title bestowed? I wonder if they'll give it to her when the baby is born...
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:01 PM
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Why will Camilla be a Princess Consort instead of a Queen Consort?
My understanding (and I could be wrong) is that the Palace announced when Charles and Camilla married that she would take the title of Princess Consort when he becomes King in order to short circuit ill feeling about Queen Camilla replacing Queen Diana.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:04 PM
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So, two questions...

Why will Camilla be a Princess Consort instead of a Queen Consort?

When QEII passes and William & Kate's children become princes & princesses, will Kate become a princess as well? Or does she need that title bestowed? I wonder if they'll give it to her when the baby is born...
She already is a princess- Princess William. She won't be a princess in her own right (unless a British monarch chooses to make her one [doubtful]).

The "Princess Consort" issue is because of Diana and her memory. Technically she will be Queen (Consort) and Charles will have to create the title Princess Consort.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:29 PM
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I meant princess in her own right.

And I kinda feel bad for Camilla still living in Diana's shadow. Even if she is technically Queen, it's not how she'll be remembered.

I'm all for skipping straight to King William. Thought obviously I, nor does anyone, get a vote. Monarchy and all.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:34 PM
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I meant princess in her own right.

And I kinda feel bad for Camilla still living in Diana's shadow. Even if she is technically Queen, it's not how she'll be remembered.

I'm all for skipping straight to King William. Thought obviously I, nor does anyone, get a vote. Monarchy and all.
Yep, unfortunately no woman marries into the royal family will be a princess in their own right. I never understood when I was younger, until my grandmother explained it was because they only gained the title because of their marriage- therefore they don't get the title for being born into it.

I'm not Camilla's biggest fan (I'm also not Diana's though, either), and I feel terrible for her. I agree, I think at this point in time the throne should pass to William, but that has nothing to do with Camilla. Alas, alack.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:47 PM
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So, two questions...

Why will Camilla be a Princess Consort instead of a Queen Consort?
What others said -- though it was Clarence House (the Prince of Wales' staff), not the palace that said Camilla will be titled Princess Consort, a title never used before in Britain.

(BTW, while Philip is a prince consort, being both a prince and a consort, that is not his title. His title is Duke of Edinburgh.)

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When QEII passes and William & Kate's children become princes & princesses, will Kate become a princess as well? Or does she need that title bestowed? I wonder if they'll give it to her when the baby is born...
As ColdinCanada said, she is already Princess William, but the title of Duchess of Cambridge takes precedence.

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I meant princess in her own right.
And again as CiC, said, she can never be a princess in her own right, because that only comes by blood, not marriage. Even when she is queen, she will not be queen in her own right -- she will be queen because she is the consort of the king. The difference there is that she will be called by her own name -- Queen Catherine -- while she cannot now be called Princess Catherine.

The challenging question about the throne passing to William rather than Charles (at least other than by Charles dying before his mum or by Charles abdicating) is that we're talking about the monarchy of 16 countries, not just one. All 16 would need to sign onto any change in the rules, just as they have had to do to change the rules about a first born daughter having precedence over any later-born sons.
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